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Cutting cast iron pipe

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Dog's Friend

12-08-2005 02:28:45




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Howdy!

I have to cut a 4 inch cast iron vent pipe that has to be re-routed due to a room addition.

Just going to use a rubber boot and change over to PVC vent pipe for the new run. Where the work is taking place there's no building code or plumbing inspection hassles.

A cutting torch is not an option. Was wondering if I can use a hand grinder to score and cut the pipe?

Appreciate your assistance.

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Slowpoke

12-08-2005 23:57:29




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
Use a Sawzall with a 6" blade. Then use a standard angle grinder and 1/4" thick metal cutting depressed wheel to square & chamfer the cut. The 4" cast iron sewer pipe I worked on a couple of weeks ago did not put out many sparks, but I was down 4' in a hole with 6" of muck, so it made no difference. All the rubber sleeves I bought to go to 4" ABS were too large for the cast pipe, but a snug fit on the ABS. I cut a short sample of the cast and took it to several plumbing supply places and finally one counterman carefully measured the OD. Turns out it was the same size as 4" copper pipe. Of course, I had to go to three places before I found the copper-to-ABS sleeve. Cost $20 each instead of the $10 for the standard sleeve. No one had an explanation for the 1960 odd size sewer pipe.

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Dave NE IA

12-08-2005 17:54:18




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
I do it all the time, never had any trouble with a Sawzall. I do not know your situation but if you are cutting a big chunk out and it is not at ground level they are heavy, and usually a suprise to you. Dave NE IA



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Joe Evans

12-08-2005 14:56:52




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
Sawzall



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MAC,IL

12-08-2005 07:18:35




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
In that situation, I would look to rent a chain pipe cutter AKA Snap cutter. No sparks.



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Billy NY

12-08-2005 05:06:58




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
I know in commecial building work cast and ductile iron is a commonly used material, I believe they use the chain device to cut cast and I used to cut the ductile iron watermain with a demo saw that had a metal blade, like was mentioned though, the old material might be unpredictable when trying to make a clean cut, safest bet would be to score it with a reciprocal saw, it is not too hard of a material. A grinder with a cutting wheel, which is thin, may work better, but a grinding wheel will make a lot more sparks and is much thicker, chiseling is risky, but at some point you still have to get it done somehow, maybe there is another means not yeat mentioned.


If you use a grinder or anything that creates heat and sparks, be sure to wet/soak the surrounding area thoroughly, try to contain the sparks if at all possible, do it early in the morning, that way you have all day to monitor the area in case something did start to smolder. Used to work at a lumber yard years ago, hardware store was an old brownstone type building and they were doing something similar on a friday late afternoon, later that night the place went up and it erupted into an inferno with flames 100' high. Old wood is very dry and it don't take much to make it smolder. I think in this case the contractor was very careless, to the point it may have been intentional, the owner was filthy rich, something did not add up, but I never forgot what I saw and the fire later, flames over 100 feet high, engulfed all the adjoinining buildings, including the pine shed stocked full of finished pine, what a waste, no one including firefighters were injured at least.

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Ultradog MN

12-08-2005 04:59:32




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
Hey Dog"s Friend,
I just had to do that yesterday.
Use an angle grinder with a metal cutting slitting disc. I remodel bathrooms for a living and have to do this all the time.
The rental centers do rent a tool called a pipe cracker which you can also use but it"s big and unweildly and hard to get into tight places.
The angle grinder is the quickest and easiest.
If you are working in an attic or somewhere where the sparks are a concern use an old towel soaked in water to catch the sparks as they fly off the grinder.
Good luck
Jerry

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Bus Driver

12-08-2005 04:38:28




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
Some cast iron pipe is so hard it cannot even be scratched with a sawzall. Chiseling is risky on old pipe, it may crack at the wrong place. I do use a disc grinder to deeply score it all the way around if possible and then use the chisel gently. The chain type pipe cutters may cause old pipe to crack at the wrong place.



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Mike M

12-08-2005 04:34:55




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
You might try a tool rental place. There is a tool made just for that job. I saw it on this old house.



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Blackhole49

12-08-2005 04:10:13




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
Used to do it all the time. If you can get all the way around it, use a hammer and flat chisel and score it. Then tap above the score gently with the hammer and it will break off. If it is close to a wall you can also rent a snapper.



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Harold Hubbard

12-08-2005 03:38:45




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 Re: Cutting cast iron pipe in reply to Dog's Friend, 12-08-2005 02:28:45  
Sawzall.



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