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Dennis From Mai

11-23-2005 10:32:26

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I couldnt figure out how to get my pic here so I uploaded it to the stuck and troubled pics at the home page. Just looking for best way to procede in building up some gray cast iron on the back of my 52 Case SC. I have an ox/acteline torch.

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MikeinKy

11-24-2005 10:02:08

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Re: Welding project advice in reply to Dennis From Maine, 11-23-2005 10:32:26

I can't remember the number, but Harris-Welco has a cast brazng rod. I have used them a lot and they work very well. You need to get the flux that is made for them.

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dr.sportster

11-24-2005 06:00:51

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Re: Welding project advice in reply to Dennis From Maine, 11-23-2005 10:32:26

I was the greatest cast iron welder there was. I could take a broken pump handle weld it, jump up and down on it ,it wouldnt break.Boy was I good.Then I suddenly realized that I was actually welding steel forgings and NOT cast iron.I will say this as Ive tried some cast;you wont have a shot outside in the cold snow.You need preheat and post heat and a warm[draft free] shop.You may fix it with some aditional cracks forming next to the welds.If your lucky maybe not.Trouble is when it starts to cool you will hear the new cracks forming. Im talking about arc welding with NiRod.A mechanical means of repair like a bolt on support strap might be better here.

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Don L C

11-23-2005 17:44:06

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Re: Welding project advice in reply to Dennis From Maine, 11-23-2005 10:32:26

Hi Dennis ---

I cant see all of it from the picture,...could you have a piece of flat steel cut to size and bore the holes.....thus replacing the broken part.....may be could find the piece in a salvage yard.....

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T_Bone

11-23-2005 14:31:38

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Re: Welding project advice in reply to Dennis From Maine, 11-23-2005 10:32:26

Hi Dennis,

From the picture I would think this can only be repaired for cosmetic looks and not for structural intregity. If you'll notice the dark edges of the broken cast, means that this casting has been broke (cracked) for some time now before it failed. I believe you'll probably find the PTO case is also structually weaken.

The broken area appears to be cast iron and not cast steel. If it was cast steel then I feel it would hold well with adding some additional bracing. From the picture I see a very weak design to begin with and with you using this mounting for a snow blade attachment point? I just don't think it'll hold up and will soon break again.

Maybe someone with more experience on this tractor will have a different opinion or suggestions.

T_Bone

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Dennis from Maine

11-23-2005 16:01:44

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Re: Welding project advice in reply to T_Bone, 11-23-2005 14:31:38

Thanks T-bone, I won"t be using it to plow snow only hoping to pull my disc harrow or use a 3 pt bush hog.

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Fred OH

11-25-2005 08:41:53

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Re: Welding project advice in reply to Dennis from Maine, 11-23-2005 16:01:44

The strongest you can make this part is to wrap a piece of flat iron down one side, across the back and up the other side and across the front....skip welding and letting it cool...I"d say that 3/8" thick would do the trick by as wide as the casting is tall. Use a good nickel rod and take all day...in other words weld about an inch...peen good with a chipping hammer and walk away till it"s cool before the next weld. It"ll hold. Fred OH

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