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smark

11-19-2005 07:47:25

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Im putting in a Toilet in a Slab and need to know how far to center the Drain from the finished wall? The New Toilet has no Measurements and the Guy at the 'home center' also had no idea.....

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LEANNE

11-29-2005 18:13:15

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HELP 16 ROUGH IN TOILET POSSIBLE? in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

BUILDER SET UP TOILET 17" FROM WALL.TOILET STICKS WAY OUT..... ANYONE KNOW OF A WAY TO PUT IT BACK WHERE IT BELONGS?

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BBx

11-21-2005 04:46:12

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

If any doubt at all, go back to the home center and measure it. That is what I did when I put mine in. And make sure you account for the framing size and the dry wall or what ever you intend to finish it with. That is something hard to correct if you get it wrong the first time.

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Ryan - WI

11-20-2005 17:36:04

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

If this is going to be in a basement with a concrete wall, I would make sure to add in enough extra that I could stud up a wall next to the concrete. Easier to do it now and have it stick out a bit than to try to move it later.

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Midwest redneck

11-19-2005 16:14:07

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

When I built my house 6 years ago I remember a video telling me 12" or so, but I made it 14" inches just to be safe, the 14" also allows for an enlongated bowl.

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Slowpoke

11-22-2005 01:04:22

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to Midwest redneck, 11-19-2005 16:14:07

Elongated bowl has no effect on the rough in measurement. The center of the closet bend should be minimum 12" from the stud or plate. Make it 12-1/2 and you get a little more room behind the tank for painting. The center should be 15" minimum from the wall next to the bowl and min 12" from the side of the tub. The front of the bowl must be a minimum of 21" from any fixture or wall. That's where you may have a problem with an elongated bowl. Go to the library and get a plumbing book.

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roughin

12-02-2005 00:20:52

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to Slowpoke, 11-22-2005 01:04:22

THE ROUGH IN IS FROM THE FINISHED WALL!,not the stud or plate. If you are going to tile a sheetrocked wall you better rough in from the stud wall 13" minimum. Another source:
http://www.terrylove.com/wwwboard/messages/9078.html

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roughin

12-02-2005 00:28:25

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to roughin, 12-02-2005 00:20:52

One more source even better.....American Standard>Link
Here>Link is the INFO
In order to determine your rough-in dimension, please measure from the centre of your toilet bolt holes to your FINISHED WALL. Most of our toilets are manufactured to accommodate a 12" rough-in model toilet. If, however, you find yourself in a situation where you do not have enough space to install your tank onto your bowl because the wall is in the way, the solution is our 10" rough-in toilet.

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mace56

11-19-2005 15:47:31

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

In Indiana we just try to center the hole in the piece of wood that become the seat. I don't like to lean against the wall of the outhouse so dimension is not critical.

A cordless sawzall makes a nice hole and is much faster too. loL

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Real Redneck

11-19-2005 19:10:10

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to mace56, 11-19-2005 15:47:31

Yea but those sawzall's really get dull trying to cut the hole in the concrete slab.

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glr62

11-19-2005 19:08:55

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to mace56, 11-19-2005 15:47:31

what is the measurement from front to center of hole?

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Sam#3

11-20-2005 15:49:34

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to glr62, 11-19-2005 19:08:55

What ever you need to accomadate. :)

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-19-2005 22:53:13

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to glr62, 11-19-2005 19:08:55

If it's a 12" setback toilet, just install the toilet, measure from the front of the toilet to the wall, and subtract 12". Of course, this method won't work if you need to install the toilet with the front of the bowl against the wall. If that's your plan, please take pictures.

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Hobo,NC

11-19-2005 15:42:56

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

Make sure you insulate the stub from contact with concrete, concrete will melt plastic when it goes thur cure'in cycle. When i set mine I did not figger for the corner post of the metal building.

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RandyBee

11-19-2005 09:30:49

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

The most common is 12" but there are some toliets that will work with 10 or 14 inches. I used 12 inches in my basement slab.

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-19-2005 13:40:05

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to RandyBee, 11-19-2005 09:30:49

Hi, Randy

12" is the standard. Any other setback will make toilets less available and more expensive.

New construction is a good time to get a few things right the first time. The supply to the tank is normally on the left side. Give yourself room to get at the angle stop quickly for when the toilet is starting to overflow. A 90 degree shutoff in the angle stop comes in handy then, too. One other thing I can think of is to stub out to a threaded connector for the angle stop. You'll appreciate the convenience of only having to use wrenches to replace the angle stop if that should ever be necessary, rather than having to cut and solder, or cut and glue.

All the best, Stan

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Slowpoke

11-22-2005 01:18:10

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 11-19-2005 13:40:05

I put the supply line on the right side (facing bowl) with 1/4 turn, right angle shut off. It seems the left supply always come out too close to the tank inlet. Using the right side gave me a nice straight run to the tank without sharp bends. The tub is on the left so the shut off is not buried between the tub and bowl.

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-19-2005 13:44:10

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 11-19-2005 13:40:05

Sorry, my screen was not where I thought it was when I posted that message. It was intended for Mark, not Randy.

Randy undoubtedly knows all that stuff already, and Mark probably does, too. It's just that when I've had too much coffee, I'm incapable of using one word where a thousand will do.

Stan

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Bus Driver

11-19-2005 08:59:58

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Re: Rough in toilet in reply to smark, 11-19-2005 07:47:25

12"

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