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OT: Cell phone dying vs contract

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Roger in Iowa

11-18-2005 07:50:19




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My cell phone of 4 years is dying and I cannot just buy another phone and continue with my contract. Supplier says I have to change plans, higher $$ of course, and then can get a new free or low cost phone.

Can they do this?

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Roger in Iowa




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Leland

11-18-2005 22:55:17




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
roger check ebay you probley can find a phone like you have cheap and have it programed ,but the systems have changed so much that you would be better off with a better phone . have you thought of dropping your present company and going to walmart and getting a trac phone or a simaler brand and only pay for what you use no monthly bills this way .



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Nolan

11-18-2005 18:56:12




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
What do you mean your cell phone is dying? As a general rule, they either work or they don"t. Now batteries, those do gradually die, and they are easily replaced.

As for your contract, you don"t have one. That"s long expired. But, many times calling the 800 customer service number will get you better service than at a kiosk.



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Teej

11-18-2005 20:24:24




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Nolan, 11-18-2005 18:56:12  
All cell phone companies are different, and I don't know what service the orignal person is using, but with SPrint, I've had a contract for 5 years. I've renewed it a couple times, and was always able to keep my existing plan, and price. If the contract expires, so doesn't my service. During one renewal, I even qualified for a $150 rebate, which I used to replace a phone I had that had an intermittent problem. They also waived the $15 activation fee at that time. This was last summer.

The plan I currently have doesn't exist with them anymore, and hasn't for the past 3 years. But I was told by there customer service people that as long as I renew it before it expires, I can keep it as long as I want, with no price increase, or change in service.

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Gary Schafer

11-18-2005 18:18:29




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
The "problem" is that you probably have an older TDMA technology phone (from AT&T?) and TDMA is being phased out around the country in favor of GMS technology. Most carriers that have TDMA are also operating GMS systems and will not replace any TDMA phones or add new customers to those systems. They will switch you over to the new GMS system.

They will usually give you your old rate on the new system though.

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Gary

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Davis In SC

11-18-2005 16:51:03




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
Verizon will give me a new phone, every 2 years, I can go get one anytime I care to now... But I hate to have to learn all the new features, & the buttons get smaller each year... Phone Biz is so competitive here, they will do anything to get & keep a customer...



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ChasK

11-18-2005 09:28:04




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
I would read up if you are carring insurance on the phone you have. If you have the insurance, it could always "accidentally" get run over. I'm sure you checked to see if you just need a new battery? After a while they just won't hold a charge....

Chas



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Coldiron

11-18-2005 09:02:10




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
I just got a free (no frills) phone on a two year contract with Verizon. We have been with them for about 6 yrs. You can drop your plan if you have completed your contract, start a new contract, get a new phone and continue with your original number. You shouldnt have to upgrade at all.



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steve from mo - dangit!

11-18-2005 08:58:10




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 Shop around. in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
Federal law also says you can keep your number if you want. Since you are probably out of contract with your current carrier, you are probably free to try out a different carrier who might be more reasonable. Or maybe your current carrier could get more reasonable when you ask them about it.



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dab

11-18-2005 08:54:07




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
I am surprised that they would give you another phone for free.Most of them want you to upgrade plans and still sell you a phone. They will do anything to get ya but once you spend a couple of years or more giving them lots of money they could seem to care less about keeping you. Shop around and see what competition is like. Then go back to your current supplier and see what they will do. I have switched to alltel where I am from, not always happy with the service but more then made up for it from the dealer. She even switched my phone out 3 times now to get me one that will work better, at no cost. Don't count on that from all of them though because before I got the last one switched out I went to the main office for our area and they wouldn't do anything but yet a dealer would.

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Teej

11-18-2005 20:19:08




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to dab, 11-18-2005 08:54:07  
I'd like to share my experience with SPrint Cell phones.

I have Sprint, and the plan I have they don't even offer anymore. They haven't offered one like it for the same price in about 3 years. I can renew my contract when it expires (every 2 years) and keep my existing plan exactly as it was for the past 5 years, with the same price. The customer service people told me that I HAVE to renew it before it runs out however. If I wait until after, then I have to sign a new contract with a new plan, and new price of course. I've even replaced the phone once with out having to change plans. I can buy and change phones as often as I want, but they do charge a fee each time ($15 last time I looked). Last time I replaced my phone, my contract was almost up, so I renewed it, and got $150 rebate, which I used to purchase a new phone, and they waived the $15 activation fee on the phone. Still have my original plan also.

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David - OR

11-18-2005 08:28:57




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
I think you are being caught by the GPS switchover, given the age of your phone.

There is an FCC mandate requiring that cell phone carriers provide accurate geographic location of the cell phone for anyone calling 911.

This can be done via triangulation from multiple cell towers, or by using a GPS capable telephone. Triangulation is not practical/reliable enough in hilly areas, so most cellphone carriers have adopted the GPS approach.

If your old telephone did not have GPS capability, then you cannot replace the old phone with a like model. The carriers point to the FCC mandate and don't feel any guilt over the expense this causes you.

Ironically, the telephones have had the GPS chip for a couple of years now, but the rest of the infrastructure is not yet finished in many places, so for these places the GPS location feature remains a useless additional cost.

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Bob

11-18-2005 08:10:27




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 Re: OT: Cell phone dying vs contract in reply to Roger in Iowa, 11-18-2005 07:50:19  
Have you read the fine print in your original user's agreement? (Probably wouldn't hurt to have a "Boston Lawyer" look at it!)



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