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heat tape for fuel line?

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bcPA

11-11-2005 20:50:15




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Does any one make a electric freeze tape or cable approved for use on a fuel oil line for a oil burner. I would also like to insulate with the preformed foam pipe insulation that is readily available. The ones I found say to only use them on water lines and to only insulate with fiberglass.




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bcPA

11-13-2005 16:31:32




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
The paperwork that came with the new heat tape and cable I bought said to be used with water lines ONLY. That is why I was looking for something approved for fuel line use.



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Mark - IN.

11-13-2005 00:32:14




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
As a kid had fuel oil furnace. The 200 gallon tank had a filter that used to freeze up just before the line because was outside and of course condensation in the tank would cause it to freeze. Would have to sometimes change it on some of the coldest days of the coldest years.

Some here say to use No.1, and I suppose that's the way to go these days. But, not being an expert on fuel oil vrs diesel fuel, and I hear that they are the same, we always used de-natured alcohol in the trucks and generators in the Army, and were supposed to use it in our diesel burning tent heaters. I would imagine if it's true about fuel oil and diesel being the same, can't see why couldn't use one of the anti-gels that we use in the trucks and tractors. I could be wrong, but can't see why not.

NEVER ever try to cut with gasoline. True, now funny story, but not at the time? During my Army days, the Army specifically said in the TM on that pot bellied diesel burning tent heater, ALWAYS use de-natured alcohol, NEVER use gasoline to thin the diesel. Me and like 16 other guys got stuck camping out in a GP Medium tent in few feet of snow on the top of some ski resort place in Graf Germany for weeks. We didn't have de-natured alcohol, but the jeeps had gasoline, and thats what we borrowed to cut that thick as mud diesel. Worked good too when we first mixed it and got the burners set right, with some minor adjustments later (opening the valve for ever thickening diesel). With the exception of the guys on duty operating the radios in the CEM shelters on the back of 2.5 and 5 tons, most of us were asleep in our sleeping bags when the thick diesel ran out and the much thinner gasoline hit the burner at an accelerated rate. Was about 1AM or so when we were all awakened to a very loud WOOSH of that gasoline hitting the burner and a fire out of control. "Abandon tent, abandon tent...!!!". We all made it out, but that tent burned to the ground with everything in it. Sleeping bags, duffle bags with uniforms, cots, coats, everything up in flames. The Battalion Commander was mad, man was he MAD. He relieved the Sargent, chewed us up and down, made us sleep in the cabs of the running vehicals for the rest of the time up there, just to make his point. Not much heat from the heaters of them jeeps, 2.5 and 5 tons, and seats were like rocks. The CEM shelters were toasty warm from them radio tubes and multiplexers, but he forbid it, unless were specifically on duty. I was a repairman, and as long as them radios were up, I never got duty. He made his point, and we all learned that the TM on those pot bellied diesel burning heaters was right, NEVER cut diesel with gasoline.

Mark

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Kevin Bismark

11-12-2005 19:39:49




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
Up here all I have ever put on oil lines is the nice heat tape that you can cut to length, it is self regulating, a little bit more money but it sure works great, put a bunch around the copper line, then wrapped it with a kit that had the fiberglass insulation in it, and that kit had plastic on a roll that you wrapped over the insulation and then I put a loose couple wraps of duct tape over that, have one that must have been on for over 15 years and still works, never had anything in that tank but #2 oil and never gelled up yet, didn't matter if it was 30 or 50 below.

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JMS/MN

11-12-2005 09:48:17




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
I always use #1 in the shop furnace, but have had problems with icing- maybe condensation. Replaced the small copper line with hydraulic hose- 1/2 inch dia- took care of the problem.



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INTOTRACTORS

11-12-2005 07:04:45




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
BCPA YOU CAN USE WATER HEAT TAPE ON OIL FUEL LINES
WHAT YOU WANT TO USE TO INSULATE IT WITH IS RUBERTEX A/C LINE INS.3/8 OR 5/8 WALL.IF YOUR FILTER SHOWES TO HAVE A LOT OF WATER IN IT.THERE
ARE TO FUEL ADDTIVES TO USE HOT OR HEAT YOU CAN BUY THESE AT HEATING AND A/C SUPPLY STORES.THIS
WORKS IT IS A LOT BETER THAN BEING OUT SIDE AT
FOUR IN THE MORNING AT 20 BELOW 0 THAWING THE LINE
OUT.

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deadeye

11-12-2005 01:14:58




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
Just use #1 grade fuel and it won't jell in cold weather. You must be using #2 grade if you are having problems. #1 will cost a little more than #2....deadeye



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Leland

11-11-2005 20:58:51




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 Re: heat tape for fuel line? in reply to bcPA, 11-11-2005 20:50:15  
Try a roof and gutter cable



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