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Old School Bus...Hauler?

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Glenn FitzGeral

11-09-2005 15:20:41




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Being the practical sort I am, I have always been intrigued by the incredibly low prices retired school busses sell for. It seems they could be modified into a pretty classy camper or hauler rig, but I have never seen one done nicely. Anyone seen a nice conversion? Come to think of it there are probably web sites dedicated to such projects. What do you think? Glenn F.




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Slowpoke

11-17-2005 00:02:02




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
Lots of uses for old school buses are shown in "Farm Show" magazine, a bimonthly newspaper format publication. They offer a cd with every issue printed since it started in 1977. The articles give a name and address info for the person who did the conversion or whatever. There's lots of stories about other things people have made from cars, trucks, tractors and all kinds of junk. Build your own bale wrapper; brick lined wood furnace; air conditioner; portable manure storage tank. Also unusual new tools, farm and ranch equipment, or how people have bypassed the dealer for repair parts and came up with something a 1000 times better. Or made their own tractor. Or found a new way to make money.
Try www.farmshow.com. No, I don't sell it, I just read it and love it.

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mace56

11-10-2005 17:21:31




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
folks are starting to retire diesels. No fuel problems with one of those. Especially Cummins. From what I have heard watch how much you chop into the body. The frames are light cause they use the body to stiffen em up. In other words, don't expect to put a dump bed on em.



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fixerupper

11-10-2005 19:28:02




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to mace56, 11-10-2005 17:21:31  
Around here a few hog farmers use them to haul weaner pigs from the farrowing house to a nursery building a few miles away. In the winter the pigs stay warm and cumfy. We all know what the smell is like in there!



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Dave in GA

11-11-2005 06:06:12




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to fixerupper, 11-10-2005 19:28:02  
I'd suggest that after using old school buses for hauling hogs for a few years, ship the buses to the Arab countries. They're always looking for cheap, used school buses and other trucks. But don't tell them what that smell is.



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dr.sportster

11-10-2005 12:52:52




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
Ive seen some decent looking jobs at bike week in Daytona.They sit a little high.I didnt check out the interior on any.Ive seen guys get used police ones for free.



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MPND

11-09-2005 17:58:00




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
Heres a link to an older conversation on the same topic. It includes at least one picture.



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KEH

11-09-2005 17:32:27




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
Speaking as an old teacher, most buses are worn out here in SC when the state retires them.

KEH



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BobMo

11-09-2005 17:31:29




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
I imagine all these guys that have done these conversions to campers and what nots were the practical types just like yourself. A school bus is a school bus and will always look like one. For haulers they won't carry much weight because they have soft springs and light suspension.



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Dusty

11-09-2005 17:06:21




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
It's my understanding that they are made/geared for country roads with a lot of stoping and starting, which causes them to burn a lot of fuel on the highway.

Dusty



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Stickler

11-09-2005 18:07:52




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Dusty, 11-09-2005 17:06:21  
As a hauler, they're ok as long as you don't overload them too much. I've seen lots made into flatbed hay haulers.

As for worn out, that depends on the local rules. here, they have to be retired from school bus service after 12 years, no matter how good of shape they're in, so they're usually in pretty decent shape.

You do have to careful to check the gearing on them. It depends on the run the bus was ordered for. Some are indeed geared for low speed starting and stopping. I've had 3 of them camperized. The first was originally a town bus, geared for a top speed of about 50mph. It would run 60 with a brick on the throttle and only got about 5mpg. My last one was a diesel, geared for highway, and that booger would do 75 easy and got better mileage than my pickup!If you can get one though that had a country run with highway speeds involved, they do pretty well. There are indeed many websites on bus conversions, some are absolutely beautiful. If I ever do another, it'll be on a coach (ie greyhound) chassis. Much more power, better brakes, load capacity, etc. The one thing you have to realize in doing a school bus conversion is that you will NEVER get even close to your investment back if you sell it. Buying one that's already done is the way to go there, but then you deal with someone else's mistakes.

As to the campgrounds that won't let a bus conversion in, the same ones generally won't let ANY RV more than 10 years old in, or any occupant under the age of 50. In other words, a bunch of stinking rich stuck up retired snobs. Who the heck would want to stay there anyway? I've seen coach conversions built on chassis dating back to the early 1960's that are truly awe inspiring, and worth well over 100 grand. Yet these snobs won't let them in because they're more than 10 years old? They can go rot in hell with their rich buddies.

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John(OR)

11-09-2005 16:51:43




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 Re: Old School Bus...Hauler? in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 11-09-2005 15:20:41  
Hey Glenn I have to admit that I have never seen a real nice conversion but have seen a few RV parks that wont let school bus conversion spend the night, seems odd because there has to be a few that are very nice conversion but what do I know, my RV has been always been station wagons.
John



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