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Torch Selection (Still!)

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Keith

02-03-2001 14:55:07




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I have scoured the Internet trying to help me make up my mind but it still gets kinda confusing. I think from everything that has been said I have at least narrowed my selection down to a Victor torch but since there are so many to choose from I can't seem to choose. McMaster Carr and Grainger carry most everything and even a few stores locally. The confusion exists since so many models list that they can cut or weld up to certain thicknesses with the included tips and even greater with additional tips. The question is that if so many different models can do nearly the same thing why is there such a huge difference in price (~$200-$800)? There are the standard Victor outfits which cost the most, and the Victor Firepower outfits which cost the least. I would like to buy an outfit since it would be the most cost effective way to get started. My need for a torch is not immediate so I can take as much time as I need in making the decision.

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Norm in NC

02-04-2001 14:50:27




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
I just bought a Victor Super Range outfit. Regulators, torch, 1 cutting tip, 3 brazing tips, rosebud, 25' of hose, goggles, and lighter for $345.00 no shipping charges from RRAM sales. www.rramsales.com They beat everyone locally on prices. I'm pretty well satisfied.



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Steve U.S. Alloys

02-04-2001 10:31:59




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
Just one more thing Kieth. Ask the salesperson at the gas house about the cost of acquiring tanks. You will want to match the torch to the tanks so you don't overdraw and create a safety hazard regarding the acetylene tank. Ask them about the requirments for the largest tip in the kit so you will operate safely. My point is that if you buy a big torch, you may get a real shock when you find out what the appropriate tank set-up will run. Sort of like calling your insurance man before you buy a vehicle.

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Steve U.S. Alloys

02-04-2001 10:23:27




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
Here's a couple of other things to consider when you buy that torch outfit. The Victor Journeyman model 315fc and the Super Range 100c have built-in flash arrestors and check valves. Price those separately and you'll see the value of that.

For the most part, torches of lesser cost have a finish that is not as highly polished as the more costly ones. I'm talking about the same basic equipment at differing price ranges. I know that sounds rather ridiculous but thats indeed a fact. That's one reason you are seeing all those different choices.

As you probably have already determined, some kits will come with two stage regs while others have single stage. Not that important for general use. You don't really care about steady flow rates most likely. You will also see tip assortments that differ and of course cutting capacity.

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T_Bone

02-04-2001 05:26:26




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
Hi Keith, Now you know why I suggested the Victor 100, as the average usage is upto a inch. Out of 30yrs in the trade, I can never think of needing any model larger. If you need to cut thicker plate then just put in a larger tip. Unless your into a production type setting, where heavy plate is going to be cut on a continual bases, the larger torch is not needed. You have twice the control on the V-100 than the larger models and when your free handing, control is every thing!

T_Bone

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Nathan(GA)

02-03-2001 19:38:17




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
It's been so long, I'm not sure, but I think we used the journeyman. Whatever it was, I have a used one just like it that I bought for $125. The ones we used had rough treatment and performed really well. I have cut a 6" thick piece of bar in an S shape to make a steering arm lift block for a 4x4 that I had. I don't know what they cost now, but several years ago around $450.



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Richard

02-03-2001 19:25:26




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
I bought a Victor Journeyman from the local pawn shop. $100 for regulators, 50' hose, cutting head, and barrel. It's in excellent shape.

Most of the rig welders and welding shops around here use this style torch setup. I'm not sure about the specs, but I have cut 1-1/2 plate with it. As a matter of fact, I just cut some 12" 100 Lb. / Foot Custom I-Beam today.

I do know what you mean by looking in the catalogs, they offer 9 jillion models now.

Good Luck. If you need the actual model Number I can go to the shed and get it for you.

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hillbilly

02-03-2001 18:16:38




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 Re: Torch Selection (Still!) in reply to Keith, 02-03-2001 14:55:07  
You want 2 stage regulators and a good quality torch The cheaper models usually have single stage regulators and the needle valves on the torch itself are so touchy that it is hard to keep the flame controlled properly. If you just touch them it is either open to much or not enough. Just my opinion



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