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BobOHIO

11-05-2005 20:09:34




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I'm tearing out some nice 1 X 10 hardwood boards and would like to save them. Someone painted them white and I would like to clean them up. Can I run them through a planer to take the paint off and clean them up? Or would it hurt the knives on the machine? Thank you




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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

11-08-2005 17:46:25




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to BobOHIO, 11-05-2005 20:09:34  
To save ten dollars per board you risk putting a $2000 machine out of commission?

I've never tried paint but bird droppings take the edge off planer knives very quickly. It's not that they dull or nick the knives, they just take the sharp edge off and thus erode the quality of the cut so that the machine has to work much harder and so the wood is a little rougher, the motor runs hotter, and eventually the resets start to pop. It's not the machine's fault.

A floor sander with 20 or 36 grit takes paint off boards. A planer takes thin cuts off new wood. If you use it as a floor sander, don't expect it to plane lumber or last very long.

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BobOHIO

11-08-2005 18:39:06




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-08-2005 17:46:25  
Thanks Rod- I'll go with a belt sander to get the paint off first. My friend has one he'll let me borrow.



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Robert in W. Mi.

11-06-2005 16:29:27




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to BobOHIO, 11-05-2005 20:09:34  
The best way to clean them up is to take them to someone who has a wide belt sander, and have them "sand" them clean for you.

Robert



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BobOHIO

11-06-2005 10:40:12




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to BobOHIO, 11-05-2005 20:09:34  
I'll give it a try and will wear a mask for paint dust. Thanks



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Glenn F.

11-06-2005 05:47:59




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to BobOHIO, 11-05-2005 20:09:34  
I'd be surprised if you don't hit a few broken off or otherwise "hidden" fasteners. Glenn F.



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Bus Driver

11-06-2005 05:24:38




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to BobOHIO, 11-05-2005 20:09:34  
Paint typically has silica added to make it harder and to offer resistance to damage from scrubbing. Paint quickly dulls planer knives. Run all the boards through once to remove most of the paint, change or sharpen the knives and do the subsequent planing passes.



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2x4

11-05-2005 20:32:01




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to BobOHIO, 11-05-2005 20:09:34  
it will dull the knives but do the job. You would need a mask.



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Also

11-06-2005 10:19:26




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to 2x4, 11-05-2005 20:32:01  
consider that since the paint is old it may contain lead- be careful and for sure wear a mask.



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NC wayne

11-05-2005 23:31:56




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to 2x4, 11-05-2005 20:32:01  
Hey 2x4, I've got a question. Why will it dull the knives just because the boards have paint on them anymore than if they didn't? Unless somebody used some type of awsomely hard paint or some type that was full of abrasives it ought to be softer than the wood itself in most cases. My brother in law deals in timber machinery and in talking to him I've learned that various types of wood are extremely abrasive. Believe it or not Poplar, even as soft as it is, is about the most abrasive they work with he told me. So, going by what he said, along with past experience and common sense, I know no matter what wood your cutting, hard of soft, the knives will eventually dull. Still, what causes them to dull faster when the board is painted? I'm no woodworking expert by any stretch, but the way see it once the knives start into the piece their cutting through the wood first and and then going through the paint layer from the backside. Cutting this way the knives aren't so much cutting off the paint as they are taking off a layer of wood with paint on one edge. Like I said I'm no expert, and I may be looking at things all wrong, so please enlighten me. Thanks in advance for the knowledge.

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SLEEZY

11-06-2005 15:18:45




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to NC wayne, 11-05-2005 23:31:56  
You are right in one remark. You are no expert. The part about common sense----- --??? Ripping boards with several coats of emnamel will quickly dull a saw blade. Been there - done that!!!



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NC Wayne

11-06-2005 16:05:42




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 Re: wood plainer in reply to SLEEZY, 11-06-2005 15:18:45  
Thanks for the comments guys. Now that you say it I remember that when we were working for a mining outfit a couple years back they said that some of the uses for the minerals they were after was for use as paint pigment. Like any other rock be it in a solid chunk or in powdered form I can see where it's gonna dull them quick as anything...Thanks for taking the time with my question and refreshing my memory.

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