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Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove)

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Jim (Mich)

11-04-2005 06:21:58




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I just bought a corn stove. I have been burning clean corn purchased from the grain elevator guy who sells the stoves. I would like to save some more money by cleaning corn myself rather than buying the expensive cleaned corn. I've been tinkering around with screens and a blower but haven't got it quite right yet. Will a fanning mill clean corn (get rid of dust, stalks, cob bits, dust etc.)? Has anyone out there built a homemade cleaner that will produce the kind of clean corn needed for a corn stove? Thanks.

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greenbeanman in Kansas

11-06-2005 13:07:54




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 Use a shoe in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
Use a shoe to clean your corn. The shoe from an old combine that is.

It doesn"t seem to me like it would be very difficult to adapt a cleaning shoe and fan from an old combine to do the cleaning. Basically that is what a fanning mill is, and if they are in short supply while an old combine is rusting away-----

Set your adjustable sieves wide, apply maximum fan and away you go. You could even leave the tailing elevator bottom open so as to drop out maximum debris, however you would also lose a lot of corn because of the widely opened sieve.

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Kevin Bismark

11-05-2005 20:12:44




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
I vote for the fanning mill, ran a ton through one today, it was the worst corn I have ever seen, never saw any that dirty, had some from another place and ran a bag of it through at the end to see how that looked, night and day difference, almost nothing blew out of the fanning mill on that bag, it's pretty old, don't think they made them in many years, but they work great for cleaning up corn, you might have to make a corn screan for one if you cand fine one for sale, but it works pretty good, went pretty fast to.

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nwb

11-05-2005 16:00:37




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
I have a book for a Clipper fanning mill. It does not show the screens to clean corn, only to grade it. For beans it says upper screen 20 or "I". Lower screen B or 9. Belt on inside pulleys and fan sides open, srong air blast. There are many different screens. I'm not sure this would be large enough for corn. It would be rare to find a mill with all the screens, but most will come with several screens. You want a large screen on top to allow the corn to drop through. On the bottom you want a smaller screen that will not allow the corn to drop through. If you do not have these screens you could maybe find some screening material at a combine salvage yard. Hope this is Helpful. By the way, cleaning 150 bu. is a lot of work!

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JMS/MN

11-05-2005 08:52:51




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
For screens, check with grain handling dealers for replacement screen used in rotary screeners. Snowco is one brand- although their stuff is junk. There are other brands. You likely need two sizes, one the corn goes through while the big trash slides off, and one smaller mesh that lets the dirt and dust through while the corn slides off- like in a fanning mill.



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msb

11-04-2005 19:36:58




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
I clean my popcorn that I raise by slowly pouring the popcorn into a bucket set below a box fan.Does a great job of cleaning it.



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Scotmac

11-04-2005 09:07:58




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
Check a local seed company and see if they have any old seed corn out of date. Many times you can buy it for a dollar a bag....or for free. They have to pay to get rid of it if they can't sell it1



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farmermatt

11-04-2005 08:45:47




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
Yes a fanning mill will clean corn if you have the right screens. Screens are the tricky part, lots of farms have an old fanning mill, buty how many of them were using them to clean corn??? Next to none. Ive found some screens and will start fanning corn very soon (gotta get harvest wrapped up) for my new stove and hopefully for sale to others. How much were you paying for clean corn?? At todays corn prices, I feel Ill have to have $3/50lb bag. If anyone thinks thats too high, they sure need to try it themselves. LOL
Matt

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Jim (Mich)

11-05-2005 04:11:54




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (Corn Prices) in reply to farmermatt, 11-04-2005 08:45:47  
In answer to your question about how much I am paying for clean corn: I buy it in bulk for $3.50 per 56 pound bushel. They sell it in 56 lb bags for $4.00. He will sell me "uncleaned" corn in bulk for $2.50 per bushel. I figure I'll burn about 150 bushels per year so it's worth it to me to clean it myself. I'm going to an auction today to bid on a fanning mill. I don't know if it has the right screens, if not, I might get it anyway and start looking for screens.

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Ralph - Ohio

11-04-2005 07:46:02




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 Re: Corn Cleaning -- My Dumb Question in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
Why does the corn need to be clean to burn? Seems to me the chaff would burn as well or better than the corn.



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Jim (Mich)

11-04-2005 17:11:18




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 Re: Corn Cleaning -- My Dumb Question in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 11-04-2005 07:46:02  
The corn is delivered to the firebox by an auger. Pieces of stalk etc can cause the auger to bind up. I've been told that the dust is even worse for the auger, can cause it to stop moving and overheat.



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john in nebraska

11-04-2005 09:55:06




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 Re: Corn Cleaning -- My Dumb Question in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 11-04-2005 07:46:02  
my guess is that first you don't want any dirt mixed in, just cause the ash box on the stove to fill up faster. As well as cob and shuck bits. I wonder if too much grain dust introduced into a corn stove would cause an explosion similar to a grain elevator going boom. Sure wouldn't want that to happen in the house.



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paul

11-04-2005 07:20:07




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
Fanning mills sell for $5 here in the midwest since RR soybeans. Should work well for this.

--->Paul



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Robert in W. Mi.

11-04-2005 07:17:17




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
The ones i've seen for cleaning corn for home use were, like a dust collector. You hook a shop vac to one end, to pull the corn through a hose. "Inbetween" the corn and the vac was the collector with a small hopper under it that the corn ends up in.

The way it works is, the vac lifts the corn, but it's too heavy to get to the vac, so it falls through the collector and into the hopper, BUT all the light fines stay airborn and go straight to the vac....

There's folks selling them already made, at corn stove places...

Looked good to me....

Robert

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JoeK

11-04-2005 06:56:08




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 Re: Corn Cleaning Ideas Needed (for Corn Stove) in reply to Jim (Mich), 11-04-2005 06:21:58  
We used to take seed oats to the feed mill and run it thru the"fanning mill" to clean it.Dunno if that would work on corn though.Local wild rice harvesters use a small homemade hopper to drop the rice past a household box fan which blows away the loose hulls/debris as the rice drops onto a tarp below.
Note,believe the process of separation of grain and debris is called"Winnowing"...Mebbee Google?

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