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How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ?

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Tom in Western

10-27-2005 20:10:01




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My old 1977 work truck needs help. I need to replace my old 305 engine with a 350. I had one given to me but the guy isn't positivly sure it is a 350. It might be another 305. Are there any sure ways of identifying one without taking the heads off? I sure hope so...thanks!




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Mike from cny

10-28-2005 22:18:55




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
www.mortech.com casting # is behind the driver's side head. Around '80 they switched from a drivers side dip stick to passenger side. Any other questions just post.



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Leland

10-28-2005 20:59:48




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
Go to www.chevytruckworld.com



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Tom in Western PA

10-28-2005 19:33:28




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
Thanks for the info....I will look tomorrow! You guys are a great resourse.



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Glenn F.

10-28-2005 14:48:05




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
Hook on a heavy wagon or load it down good. Then go for a little spin. You whould know before you get back home. Glenn F.



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tractor211

10-28-2005 11:41:37




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
Get yourself a free catalog from LMC Truck in Lenexa, KS. They have almost all of the parts for 1973-1987 Chevy and GMC trucks. The catalog also has some pages for engine and chassis identification. Also some interesting history on these years of trucks. Their mailing address is PO Box 14991, Lenexa, KS 66285-4991. Phone number 800-562-8782 and website www.lmctruck.com Hope they can help you.



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Buster

10-28-2005 09:49:28




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
I had someone tell me once that the dip stick is on the opposite side? Might take a look.



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Bob

10-28-2005 10:35:15




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Buster, 10-28-2005 09:49:28  
The location of the dipstick varies with production date and application (car, truck, or van) and is NOT a reliable indicator of 305-vs.-350.



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Farmall A man

10-27-2005 23:46:46




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
take the casting number off the back of engine behind the driver side head and look up the number on the web



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Ron in Nebr

10-27-2005 23:05:38




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
Check out this website:>Link

>Link Should give the correct codes.

Other than that there's no good easy way to tell. The exhaust port spacing as noted in one of the other posts won't work since certian year 350's also used that. The crankshafts are darn near identical so you can't use the old tried and true method of identifying the engine by the shape of the rear crank flange. They used the same stroke, only the bore on the 305 was smaller.

As far as that goes, on an unknown used engine it might not be such a bad thing to pull the heads and see what the bore size is, and at the same time check for cylinder wall wear(scratches, ring ridge, etc.)....and any other possible trouble areas. It might let ya know how much longer you can expect to get out of it, and small block chevy head gasket sets are way cheap if you look in the right places...

Then again, if you're just wanting something you can stab in and run, that's fine too, been there done that...but if that's what your wanting it doesnt really matter what size it is either.

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toolman

10-27-2005 21:36:29




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
i had a 77 a while back with a 307 in it, never had alot of power but got by , hauled hay , wood everything, finally rusted away.



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Bob

10-27-2005 20:56:50




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
Do a GOOGLE search for "chevy casting codes".

Check out the cylinder head and block casting numbers against some of the lists you find.

(Note, the head casting numbers are likely under the valve covers.)



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JonM

10-27-2005 20:33:11




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
best way is to check the suffix code on the front passenger side of the block, their will be a serial stamped with 2 or 3 letters at the end of it, these letters are the code for the engine,if you post these I might be able to help, also check the block casting # on the back driver side of the block.
hope this helps
JonM



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Mark - IN.

10-29-2005 03:22:09




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to JonM, 10-27-2005 20:33:11  
There you go. Don't need to read any further because that will do it (casting/serial) and is the only way to do it, because on the outside, a small block is a small block is a small block.

I don't remember much about 305s except were throw aways. Had the 2nd smallest bore of any small block made. I think was 2nd only to the 262 that went into the late '70s Monzas. As I recall, if bored .060 over, the bore still wouldn't be that of the 283/307, or the very first small block, the 265. The 305 was a small bore, longer stroke, torque engine with very little HP and no good way to find any. On the outside looked like any other small block, but on the inside was a mouse that could barely belch. OK for moving low geared pickups and suburbans, and irrigation pumps.

Mark

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matthies

10-27-2005 20:25:48




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to Tom in Western PA, 10-27-2005 20:10:01  
One way I found to tell them apart is that the exhaust port above the oil filter has a wider bolt spacing than the other single exhaust ports. chris



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mark

10-28-2005 10:04:44




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 Re: How can I identify a chevy 350 from a 305 or ? in reply to matthies, 10-27-2005 20:25:48  
I bought a new '77 Chevy and was listed equipped with a 305...hehe turned out to be a 350! before I found out positively, I could tell something was up..... as in 11 mpg and that truck would haul the mail....wasn't any 305 could touch it.



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