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jfp

10-22-2005 05:51:29




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Little woman ask me to put in a new kitchen light and I did. I must have installed a couple hundred lights in the past but this one was real heavy. I learned a new trick when I found some old automotive vacum line in the shop by slipping the two wires together inside a piece of 1 inch line it held the heavy fixture while my hands were free to twist the wire and wire nuts. Now why I didn't learn this eons ago I'll never know, but it sure would have made things easier. Hope you all can use it.

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10-22-2005 09:59:04




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to jfp, 10-22-2005 05:51:29  
Good idea.I like to have the lady of the house hold the fixture while I wire it up.Just kidding.I usually get a piece of waste wire and tie it to the fixture and the outlet box.



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RegoR

10-24-2005 06:45:20




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to 02, 10-22-2005 09:59:04  

Your method sounds much more secure. I wouldn't want to be surprized by sudden, unexpected slipping of the wires inside a short piece of rubber hose. The first poster said the fixture was "real heavy" and I can imagine the weight potential could overcome the friction.
A heavy light fixture releasing unexpectedly is one thing, but if it takes you off the ladder...

RogeR



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Ralph - Ohio

10-22-2005 09:23:03




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to jfp, 10-22-2005 05:51:29  
After reading all this I think I've got it! A picture would have beeen worth a thousand words. He holds the white wire from the new fixture and the white wire from the ceiling box side by side and slips a 1" long piece of small tight-fitting rubber tubing over both of them and slides it perhaps 6" down both wires. The same thing is done with the 2 black wires. Then the fixture can dangle from the 2 wires held together by the friction of the rubber tubing while he strips or twists the ends together and puts on the wire nut without having to support the fixture at the same time.

Make sense?

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Brian G. NY

10-22-2005 12:49:12




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 10-22-2005 09:23:03  
jfp, I"m impressed with your innovative skill; Ralph, I"m impressed with your powers of perception, without which I would not have understood the concept. Altho, I don"t have occasion to install ceiling fixtures very often, I hope I remember this the next time I do; it"s a great idea.



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jfp

10-22-2005 09:33:40




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 10-22-2005 09:23:03  
Thanks Ralph, while I have a very high mechanical ability, I'm lost for words explaining things. Just tested two months ago out of 120 possible got 118 correct on mechanical , english well I'd rather not say.



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bo

10-22-2005 09:33:12




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to Ralph - Ohio, 10-22-2005 09:23:03  
OK...that makes some sense now. I'll need to give that a shot next time I hang a light...good idea. Thanks.



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BobMo

10-22-2005 08:06:26




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to jfp, 10-22-2005 05:51:29  
I got to go with bo, I still don't understand. Was it normal vacuum hose 1" long? I still don't understand how that helped or have you had a problem with the wires slipping through your fingers?



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jfp

10-22-2005 08:57:48




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to BobMo, 10-22-2005 08:06:26  
Maybe I just can't explain it. It helped because the wires in the box were short and I needed 3 hands to do it. One to hold fixture, one to hold wire, one to put the wire nuts on. This way I just let the fixture hang on its own. My hands are fairly big and tight spaces are a problem.



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bo

10-22-2005 07:02:38




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to jfp, 10-22-2005 05:51:29  
I don't want to sound stupid but I must have missed something. You have a piece of hose, you slip the light wires into it and how does that hold up the fixture?



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jfp

10-22-2005 07:14:24




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to bo, 10-22-2005 07:02:38  
The vacum line is very very small. Being rubber it won't let the wires slip once on. It is done before you make any cuts on the wire so the ends don't get frayed. Does that help, rubber on rubber or vinyl won't slip if its clean.



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don-OH

10-22-2005 17:30:35




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 Re: Wiring Trick in reply to jfp, 10-22-2005 07:14:24  
jfp i understand. neat trick i for will use thanks for sharing don-OH



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