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OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep.

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Redd

09-27-2005 18:48:24




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I know this isn't a car forum but there are a lot of us tractor folks who like to do our own repairs when possible. Wife's Jeep has leaking evaporator core- $350.00 labor to change plus labor to recharge. Dash has to come out...Does anyone know how bad it is to get the dash out or a good source for info? I know I can't recharge but it would be nice to save on the part swap.




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Redd

09-28-2005 15:55:51




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
Thanks for all the info. It was dye checked by a reputable shop. It has 113,000 miles so I don't think ther would be any warranty. Thanks again



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thejdman01

09-28-2005 08:46:19




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
i personally like to use a dye/leak detector combo. i use both to make sure. the leak detector will usually give off many false reading, are picky and a hassle to use. the only problem is with an evap core etc wher eyou cant see the dye thats why i usually use both tools



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Chris Vangel

09-28-2005 08:33:28




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
I worked for a Chrysler/Jeep dealer for 2 1/2 years. I have replaced dozens of these evap cores. Thing is, there are no short cuts. The steering column has to be lowered to the floor. The center console will be removed as well as the shifter handle. The entire dash pivots so that the drivers side is almost where is usually is and the passenger side will be resting on the seat. The job can be done in a few hours, but to someone who hasn't done one, it could take 8 or more.

As for the 80 cent seal, that is entirely a possibility. However, smart money is on the evap core, they have an incredibly high failure rate. So much so, Chrysler extended the warranty on most of those cores to 80,000 miles. I don't know of a shop that would check an a/c system without using a detector, if you trust the shop you went to, I'd go with them. A second opinion will waste more time and money if you had a respectable shop in the first place.

If I do one as a side job at home, I get a factory core, might cost a little more, but it fits perfectly and comes with the styrofoam insulators a lot of times. An addition thought, the entire a/c-heater plenum is what is being removed to get to the evap core, since you will be taking it out of the dash anyway I would consider a new heater core also if the truck has age or high mileage on it. Such a move could save you $350 in the future.

The shop I am at now has an $83 labor rate, with a labor estimate of $350, that's only 4.2 hours of labor, a damn good time for that job.

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doug in ks

09-28-2005 15:27:40




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Chris Vangel, 09-28-2005 08:33:28  
Chris, could you help me with a grand cherokee problem that is driving me nuts? I have a 97 that is soaking the pass front carpet under the mat with so much condensation from under the dash that it actually soaked the rear pass carpet and had water sloshing back and forth in the area underneath the rear seat! How do I get the water to go thru the firewall like it's supposed to? thanks



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MAC,IL

09-28-2005 06:54:04




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
Most dash assemblys are a real PITA to R&R. If I was keeping the vehicle, I would bite the bullet and just let someone else do it. I dont know about age and miles, but some times you can find a "silent" recall and maybe they will give you a break. By silent recall, I mean if you dont complain about something, they wond tell you about it. Might check alldata on that problem and see what it sez. Also jusr inquire around. Seen some get a break on repairs if they could prove it was an ongoing problem. good luck.

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thejdman01

09-28-2005 04:36:58




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
i have no clue about the jeep. jsut want to make this comment if somone unbotls the part disconnects the lines puts the new one in connects the lines real quck and then pulls a vacuum on the system, the reciever/drier could probably most likely be saved if its pulled upnder vacuum real quick. if you change it drive it around for a few days the dessicant in the dryer will absobb moisture out of the air and be junk and i dont knwo how much those cost for your vehicle that alone might be worth ahving it done

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JerryU

09-28-2005 04:08:24




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
Don"t know the particulars, but Chrysler had a lot of trouble with evaporators, both in Jeeps and minivans. There was an unadvertised recall on the Jeep where they would pay for it under certain conditions. Unfortuantely not so on the older mini vans. My 93 Voyager conked at 80,000 miles-new evaporator. My 95 did exactly the same thing at the same mileage. Dealer said they had done five that week. Talked with Chrysler - they said they knew of no recurring problems. Someone in our office had the same on a Grand Cherokee at around 65, 000 miles and got reimbursed. Try poking around allpar.com and looking on some of the links and forums.

JU

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hawaiirocky

09-28-2005 00:30:00




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
How do you know it's the evaporator core? I've seen many un-needed repairs done where the real problem was an 80 cent seal. I'd advise you get two opinions before laying out the cash. Was a vacuum test performed, and a sniffer ysed to check the system, or did some guy just look at it and say it's the evaporator? I hate seeing people get ripped off.



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John in MA

09-27-2005 20:57:58




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
That's a great deal, dealer charge is over $1K for that kind of thing. Almost every ZJ Grand Cherokee has this problem.

If you really want to do it yourself, don't use the procedure outlined in the manuals. Search through the past message board postings on www.jeepsunlimited.com for more info. A guy posted the "dealer shortcuts" method of doing the repair. Still a complicated nightmare, though.

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Bryan in Iowa

09-27-2005 19:58:18




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 Re: OT:Grand Cherokee Air Cond. Rep. in reply to Redd, 09-27-2005 18:48:24  
It's not a n easy task . If you really ,really want to tackle it it can be done. But if you havn't taken many dashes out I'd pay to have it done. Also not sure what year your working with,, make sure airbag is disabled .



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