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F14

01-29-2001 13:31:14




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I've about got myself talked into needing a drill press. It would be mostly used for light metal fabrication, like drilling half-inch holes in mild steel up to 1/4" thick. Occasional heavier use is possible.

I want a floor model, can't waste any more bench space. 110V preferred. Not too fond of Craftsman power tools, but not dead set against one if it comes well recommended.

Finally, I'd like to stay on the low side of $400.

Recommendations for brands, models and sources?

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Christopher Tate

02-03-2001 05:50:59




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 Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 13:31:14  
You can find good american made drill presses for little money by going to auctions when manufacturing plants are closing. Also call the used equipment dealers they sometimes get small drill presses when they buy out plants. Try www.mohawkmachinery.com. Keep in mind most of these will be three phase and you may have to rig a new motor on the machine.



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Lee

01-30-2001 06:35:00




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 Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 13:31:14  
Have a Rigid DP15000 Floor Model. Got it at HD for around $250.00 back when HD first went to stocking Rigid Products. I have drilled wood, steel, plastic, and a number of things that I probbaly should not have tried drilling. All with great success and has saved me hundreds of dollars on numerous projects around my small ranch. I would rate it 100 times better than the comparable Crafstman by far. Also do an internet search on "Rigid". Its an excellent company that should be around for a while. They also make one heck of a pipe wrench!

There is one drawback. Bright Orange tools are hard to hide in a shop. I don't work for Rigid in anyway but will be purchasing more of thier products as soon as I can figure out a way to sneak them past my wife. !!!!

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Tom

01-29-2001 18:36:53




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 Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 13:31:14  
One of the Chineese or Tiawan drillpresses will do fine for what you want. Still though look for the lowest speed you can find. they are all about the same though for the money. they are a good deal for the money too. Twelve or sixteen speeds, it doesn't matter much. You can find them for 200 or less in the machine tool cataloge. Whole Sale Tool, J&L, etc. Tom



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Shopguy

01-29-2001 16:09:49




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 Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 13:31:14  
Never heard of a american buffalo,but the canadian buffalo is a outstanding machine.
Al



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BFO

01-29-2001 16:28:20




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 Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to Shopguy, 01-29-2001 16:09:49  
Never heard of an American Buffalo either.



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Tools

01-29-2001 16:31:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to BFO, 01-29-2001 16:28:20  
Didn't go check, 7ft tall, more than I needed (then!), probably was Canadian. Thanks,

Mike



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Shopguy

01-30-2001 12:14:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to Tools, 01-29-2001 16:31:48  
Don't doubt the were american south of the border.
the shop i apprenticed in had about 20 #10&12's,some called canadian,some buffalo,and some canadian buffalo,all vertually identical,sorta like the other old iron we talk about.
Al



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T_Bone

01-29-2001 15:04:36




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 Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 13:31:14  
Hi F14, have you looked a Rigid drill presses? From what I saw they didn't look too bad. I haven't used one just looking. Home Depot sells them here for about $300.

T_Bone



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F14...Thanks

01-29-2001 15:16:45




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 Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to T_Bone, 01-29-2001 15:04:36  
I'll check them out. We got a HD going up, maybe I can get a Grand Opening Special.



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T_Bone

01-29-2001 15:28:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14...Thanks, 01-29-2001 15:16:45  
Hi F14, There you go. The last grand opening here they had drill presses, table saws, plainer, and router for $229eh. Almost made me by one!

T_Bone



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Tools

01-29-2001 13:56:42




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 Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 13:31:14  
Hi,

A craftsman drill press would be fine. Believe me, I'm NOT a blanket Sears fan. However, I placed an ad in the local newspaper: "Wanted, used drill press." Within two days could've had anything from a small Chinese benchtop for free, to a industrial American made Buffalo (about 2K pounds) for $300. Wound up with a 16" Taiwan (inbetween Chinese and American) for $125, perfect, been happy ever since. I'd keep my eye on 1/2 HP (American motor, 3/4 import motor) at least. The more speeds, the better. Look under the belt cover. If it has 3 pulleys, great. I have a 5 speed (2 pulleys) and it does fine.

As for buying used, run the thing. The bit shouldn't wobble, ANY, although this is correctable. It should be rather quiet. Noisy probably means bearings are shot. My 50yr old Delta is noisy, those wierd bearings are going to cost $50-$75 each (I need two). I only paid $50 for the whole thing... Oh, two more things, a table with a crank is a real plus and I like the rotating style depth setters instead of the ones with a tall threaded post and depth stop nuts.

Drill presses are simple, low maintenance and VERSATILE. Simple enough that unless it's coming out of a factory (my old Delta) or machine shop, it probably isn't hurt. Most people buy them for their spouse, who then doesn't use it much. Can't store too much on them either. Go asking for one and you'll wind up with a dusty, probably little used gem.

However, unless you REALLY know tools, don't buy ANYTHING that can get carried to a jobsite in a pickup truck, used. You can't imagine how much work it took to fix my Stanley 4x24 beltsander!

Good luck,

Mike

PS Are/were you Navy?

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VaTom

01-29-2001 14:39:56




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 Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to Tools, 01-29-2001 13:56:42  
A couple of years ago I was helping a friend with some cabinets that had euro hinges. We hit all his neighbors trying to find a drill press that had small enough runout that we could use a 35mm bit for the hinges without chewing up the doors. Three of the all-but-new drill presses were Craftsman. Owners bought them new and were hardly used. All had runout so bad we couldn't even think about using them. We finally came across a Taiwan model that worked fine. Don't know where Sears was getting their presses but they shouldn't have. On the other hand, the owners had never used a bit larger than 1/4" and never noticed. Only other thing I'd suggest is heavier is better, once you get it in place. I'd be surprised if you had to go over $200 for a heavy one, used Taiwan, that is.

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F14...As it happens,

01-29-2001 14:18:04




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 Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to Tools, 01-29-2001 13:56:42  
I'm retarded Navy, 22 years. But the F14 refer's to my McCormick tractor...



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F14...Oh, and BTW

01-29-2001 14:19:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14...As it happens, , 01-29-2001 14:18:04  
Thanks for the tips. Local Navy base is closing next year, might be able to pick up a bargain there too.

I'll hit the trader magazine too. I've got a pile of power tools, so I know what to watch out for. Your note on portable tools is a darn good one tho, hadn't thought of that.



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Tools

01-29-2001 15:47:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14...Oh, and BTW, 01-29-2001 14:19:50  
Hi,

Contractors ususally buy good tools, but man, do they ever use them HARD.

As for the runout on drill presses. Most runout is due to the chuck not being set right on the spindle. Now, if the spindle itself has excess runout, or is bent, RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY FAST!

If you're interested, I read an article on fixing runout in drill presses which is EASY and ACCURATE and fairly easy to describe (lost the article). Did it on both of mine.

Funny, never thought of the F14 being a tractor. I know of some F18 guys who would agree with you! As for myself, I was an shipdriver for a short time, then a Nasal Radiator for the balance of my 11 years. Flew S-3's and A-4's.

One last thing, I've looked for 10 years in as many cities and almost NEVER see drill presses listed in classifieds for sale. Usually see table saws, radial saws and occassionally jointers. However, I was stunned at how many responses I had when I placed a 4 word wanted ad. It's one of those things that doesn't take up enough space to generate the effort required to advertise and sell, I guess.

Good luck,

Mike

OBTW, saw another one (a 12 speed!) laying in a rubbish pile in a falling down building near where I get my sawblades sharpened. Working on finding out how to get the thing legally (not worth getting a rapsheet over scrap metal!). Hard to believe, huh?

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F14

01-29-2001 17:24:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to Tools, 01-29-2001 15:47:02  
"Nasal Radiator" I LOVE it! I thought I'd heard every slam for airdales there was.

I was an enlisted cryppie, CTM, retired as a Senior Chief. I could probably recognize a picture of a ship, if ya gave me a couple of hints ":^)

Might have to try the newpaper ad idea.



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S-3s eh?

01-30-2001 18:30:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 17:24:15  
I was maint. man on them for awhile. Did 4 yrs and got out as an E-5. Spent 32 months as sea - to much for me to consider another hitch.

Worked the S-3A in a FL squadron then went to PAX River working S-3B, ES-3A, P-3C, H-3 and some E-6 work. Planned to stay in aeronautics but Uncle Bill in '92 had other plans for defense $$.

One thing I learned, took a college education to bust them, but a high school education to repair them LOL!!!

Thanks for the memories,
Shep

PS - Airdale is the only way!

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Fred OH

01-30-2001 11:56:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to F14, 01-29-2001 17:24:15  
Might as well join the crew, I was a member of uncle sam's canoe club too, made the wespac and the med trips. Spent most of my time on the east coast on destroyer tenders. Shovel away the coffee grounds to get underway. On one trip at Naples, one of the tincans fouled an anchor. They just put a buoy on it and clipped the chain. We sent down our divers to retrieve it and they came up reporting that the bottom was covered with mess deck coffee cups. Better make a comment on drill presses to make this legit, get one that will reverse cause they're telling everybody to get a set of left handed twist drills. Uh huh, didn't think of that, did you? L8R----Fred OH

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BFO

01-30-2001 12:00:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to Fred OH, 01-30-2001 11:56:42  
ROFL!!!!



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tools

01-30-2001 14:08:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Drill Presses in reply to BFO, 01-30-2001 12:00:11  
HI HI (uh, ham radio for ROFL)



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