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Jim-Penn

09-21-2005 18:29:28




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I have a chance to buy an old lathe made sometime in the 70's. There are two and the guy will sell one of them. But he won't put a price on it. It's a what will you give me type of bargining. But I know nothing about lathes. It's been 30 years since I used one and then not much. Both lathes appear to me to be in good shape, both three phase so I would have to change the motor. One is a South Bend Model A with about a 24 inch between centers and a 9 inch swing. The other is a Delta Rockwell with about 37 inch between centers and an 11 inch swing. There is some tooling with both of them.
I know it is hard to put a price on something you have never seen but I an at a loss as how much to offer. Also what one would you consider the better lathe.

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JMS/MN

09-23-2005 12:06:48




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
I've had a 1913 SB, 13x72, since late 60s. Parts are no longer available, but the SB website does list parts available for later machines, since the 30s. Mine is gear change, saw an identical one sell recently for $850. I bought an 18x96, quick change, other brand, for $975 two years ago. Machine tools go cheap now with mfg going overseas. Tooling is a big part in the value of a deal. Important thing is to buy one large enough to suit your anticipated needs.

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Davis In SC

09-22-2005 16:49:55




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
Always a ready market for the SB, & parts readily available (although Expensive)... I once had one of the Rockwells, there were issues woth the spindle bearings, I never was able to get a decent finish with it...



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John in MA

09-22-2005 13:03:55




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
The Rockwell is a far superior lathe (larger, stronger, more features, more accurate) but keep in mind you'll never get parts for it. Delta stopped supporting their metalworking equipment in the '80s.

The small South Bends have a large user base with lots of used parts on the market. And the model A has power cross and a quickchange gearbox.

If they're both in good shape and complete, I'd say $600-1000 for the SB and maybe twice that range for the Rockwell. But lowball the guy and work your way up.

Anyway, I'd take the Rockwell if it's in good shape.

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Jerry A.

09-22-2005 12:08:26




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
Try: >Link

They>Link list used equipment and deal on the prices they post. Would give you an idea of the starting prices for the items you've listed.

Good luck. I wish I had the $$ and time to buy one....someday though.



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Joe(TX)

09-22-2005 11:33:12




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
The price of the South Bend depends on how old it is and its features. I'm not familiar with the model A. Some had babbit bearings and others roller type. Some had quick change gear boxs and others had change gears for the power feed. $1000 to $1500 would be a normal price range if in good condition and some tooling.
Bigger is better up to a point.
I have a Sheldon 9x24 (like a south bend) that I am thinking of selling myself. Probably a little too far away from you though. I bought a 15x48 Clausing and don't have room for it.

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Midwest redneck

09-22-2005 01:21:52




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
If you cant run or see the machines B4 buying then I would refuse to buy. However if you can see and run both and they run good then pick the one you want, I have never seen a Delta lathe. If either one are in good shape and they cut straight and the gears are not damaged and tooling comes with it then I would bid $1500 for one and see what he says for a counterbid.



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Butch(OH)

09-21-2005 20:25:34




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
Both should be very good machines unless battered. Personly I would not consider the Southbend for an only lathe simply because of it's small size. The 11x37 would be decent, 48" or so better yet, 60" close to perfect. This assuming you are intending to make and repair tractor parts. Mine is 18X60, a bit of overkill for swing but about right for length. Tooling will (or should) affect the price offered. Bare price for the Rockwell, $2-3000.00 at a dealer. Other poster is right about 50% starting price. Tooling values add up quickly. Used tooling figure 25% or less of new unless brand new, search for J&L supply's site to get new tooling prices.

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Roy Suomi

09-21-2005 19:36:04




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 Re: lathe price question in reply to Jim-Penn, 09-21-2005 18:29:28  
Try a web site I go to regularily , and knock off about 50% for a good deal. HGR Industrial Surplus.com



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