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11hp briggs buring oil

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Jay87T

09-06-2005 09:09:10




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hey guys, my old walk behind is buring oil its a 11hp briggs, Im guessing the rings are worn out, If I choose to replace them can I just use a standard size, or do I need to horn it out and go with a oversized size?




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buickanddeere

09-06-2005 22:48:39




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay87T, 09-06-2005 09:09:10  
You can spend less money than a rebuild and have a brand new engine with warrenty. Purchase the new engine from somebody like smallenginewarehouse.com . Then sell the old engine to somebody who thinks they can rebuild it cheap and it will be as good as new.



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Jay87T

09-07-2005 06:17:04




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to buickanddeere, 09-06-2005 22:48:39  
Less money?? a gasket and piston ring set costs 30.00 on ebay. I dont see how a new motor can costs less than that...and a carb rebuild kit costs 10.00....



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buickanddeere

09-07-2005 17:20:10




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay87T, 09-07-2005 06:17:04  
Turn the crank, new rod, new main bearings, bore the cylinder true, new valve seats, new valves, new guides, possibly re-surface the cam and followers. Then how long will the starter and alternator continue to work. A new motor is cheaper and more reliable. Now as for the price of a new motor v.s. a patch job that will will still burn oil and have less than new compresison. And how long before the rod goes through the side of the block? It's up to you. A new motor will be required and no old running core to sell. You didn't state which kind of refurbishment the old motor would see.

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Jay (ND)

09-08-2005 14:25:36




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to buickanddeere, 09-07-2005 17:20:10  
I agree - t'aint worth messing with. But I will take it a step further, or really backwards. Those BS engines are very tough, but many are known for using oil. Unlike some of the Tecumseh's I've worked with, these BS engines are a long ways from worn out when they start to use oil. Their power doesn't really drop off. Just add oil and you'll have a reliable machine for many years to come.

We had a bone shaker rototiller for years with a 5hp Briggs. It held 1 qt, and used 1 qt an hour. We'd run it until it stopped. Then stop in the house for a glass of lemonade. Then over to the garage for a funnel and another quart. Dump it in. Go back and dispose of the empty quart and put away the funnel. Stop by the house to get rid of the lemonade. Go back and start the tiller and go for another hour.

Now I'm not recommending that you run your machine out of oil, but these machines are not wore out just because they use oil.

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buickanddeere

09-08-2005 19:30:14




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay (ND), 09-08-2005 14:25:36  
The best lawn mower I ever had was a 3-1/2HP Briggs found under a scrap metal pile after an auction sale. Put wheels on it , starightened the handle, new blade, new plug, new points and brushed the rust off the flywheel. Cut the grass for 13 years, just fill up the oil and check the gas. Then the wife went and threw it out. She didn't like the noise as the muffler threads had stripped. Been through two more in four years with those p.o.s. Tecumsehs. Latest one keeps flooding because the float/needle/seat keeps letting too much fuel through. I've been through it several times with new needle,seat and float. Still leaks. Primer bulb needs about 30 pumps in order to start when it did run.

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Bus Driver

09-06-2005 18:31:38




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay87T, 09-06-2005 09:09:10  
Briggs says in their manual that using straight 30 weight oil will result in less oil consumption than with multi-weight oils. Good info for used and new Briggs engines.



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JT

09-06-2005 16:08:03




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay87T, 09-06-2005 09:09:10  
If you elect to just ring the engine, put a set of chrome rings in it. The chrome rings will take up to .003 wear in the cylinder and with the crome rings you do not want or need to hone the cylinder, just put the rings in and you are ready to go.



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fepo

09-06-2005 11:14:13




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay87T, 09-06-2005 09:09:10  
do a compression test before opening it. if you open to change the rings also check the valve guides, they can be letting oil through as well, and verify the valve seats, especially exhaust side.



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old

09-06-2005 10:06:33




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to Jay87T, 09-06-2005 09:09:10  
Standard size will probably be ok but you still need to horne the cylinder. Horneing doesn't make it over bore it just cleans the glaze off the cylinder.



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Dannie

09-07-2005 16:40:26




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 Re: 11hp briggs buring oil in reply to old, 09-06-2005 10:06:33  
They still sale rings,gasket set,ect to rebuild engines,but if it is aluminum bore it will last about a year if you are lucky.We quite rebuilds about 7 years ago because only 1 in 10 lasted over a year.I have rebuilt a lot of engines.



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