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HTP Tig Welder

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BobOHIO

09-05-2005 09:14:17




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Was looking in a magazine advertising HTP tig welders. It has 200 amp output and says it only draws 30 amps from the wall. Does anyone have one of these. It would save on the electric bill. Thanks




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BobOHIO

09-06-2005 17:44:50




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 Re: HTP Tig Welder in reply to BobOHIO, 09-05-2005 09:14:17  
Thanks Slowpoke,David and T Bone for all the good information.



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Not much help, but

09-06-2005 01:25:48




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 Re: HTP Tig Welder in reply to BobOHIO, 09-05-2005 09:14:17  
I have had the HTP 240 Mig welder for about 4 years. When my gauges started malfuncting, they sent a new set NC. While I was waiting for them, I found the problem in the old gauge and repaired it. The new gauges read in metric units, and they are smaller dials. I'm still using the old ones.
My welder was made in Hungary, which is not mentioned in the literature. The quality control could be a little better, but I still like the welder. I've welded 5/8 plate and didn't notice any difference in the electric bill. I'm guessing the HTP stands for Hungarian Technical Products.....
Slowpoke

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David - OR

09-05-2005 10:59:56




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 Re: HTP Tig Welder in reply to BobOHIO, 09-05-2005 09:14:17  
Welders are little more than resistance heaters. They use either transformers or inverters to convert from supply power at 240 volts and 30 amps to welding power of 25 to 35 volts and up to 200 amps. The welding power is then converted to heat to melt the material being welded.

Transformers and inverters are both fairly efficient, and it is not likely that there would be a lot of difference in power usage from one welder to the next for a given type of opration. About the only welder design option is to control the fan so that it only comes on when the welder internals heat up. This will not amount to much power savings, but will cut down on noise.

You would have to weld for a living, or at least get out there every weekend, for the power usage of your welder to even be detectable on your household electric bill. As for power savings, the difference between an "efficient" welder and an "inefficient" welder might amount to only a few dollars a year, even for a full time fab shop.

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T_Bone

09-05-2005 22:40:25




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 Re: HTP Tig Welder in reply to David - OR, 09-05-2005 10:59:56  
Hi Bob,

I got to agree with David as the typical home shop would never see any savings to brag about.

In a production enviroment then you can save money on a welding process by tweeking that process to yield the best results with the least amount of heat input for a given joint design.

While Tig could be tweeked to yield the best input ratio of any process, if you condsider the extra welding time then your overall production yield costs would be more expensive using Tig than say using a Mig process.

T_Bone

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