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gleaner63

09-02-2005 13:18:33




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...recently took apart some old Butler Grain bins and plan on re-erecting them on the old farm. My questions concerns the nuts and bolts that hold them together. Is the some kind of torque specs for these things, or just hit it with an immpact
wrench until it seems tight?

-Many thanks,
-Clarence




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A owner

09-04-2005 06:07:47




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to gleaner63, 09-02-2005 13:18:33  
How do you take a grain bin down? A piece at the time or is there some way?



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RickL

09-04-2005 10:01:24




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to A owner, 09-04-2005 06:07:47  
It all depends on situation,if moving close amd have clearance can just take them apart in halfs and move smaller ones can pickup whole unit and move. Large units have to come down ring at atime and go from there. did several last few years, but this season decide to discontinue the business due to not be able to find good dependable help.



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Leland

09-02-2005 20:05:58




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to gleaner63, 09-02-2005 13:18:33  
new bolts is money well spent the seal on old bolts probley has dry rotted in the sun .and they are cheap compaired to a seam failure.



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Larry806

09-02-2005 19:31:26




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to gleaner63, 09-02-2005 13:18:33  
Always use new bolts when re erecting a bin. You will have spoiled grain every time unless you do. Big grain Co's have crews replace bolts in bins every so many years



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Can't even use my name

09-02-2005 19:13:48




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to gleaner63, 09-02-2005 13:18:33  
We used an electric impact to erect two 8 ring 18' and one 9 ring 24' last year. I ran it and would hit till it hammered a few times and that is tight enough. The guy holding the bolt on the outside will be able to tell if it isn't tight enough.



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RickL

09-02-2005 18:25:07




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to gleaner63, 09-02-2005 13:18:33  
are you reusing the old ones or using new bolts. When you took it apart did you spin the bolt or nut. You need the seals to be good on the bolts.tighten nuts only when you asemble or you will ruin the seals.



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RustyFarmall

09-02-2005 15:32:53




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to gleaner63, 09-02-2005 13:18:33  
I'm sure that the crew that erected it in the first place used some sort of an impact wrench. If your impact can be adjusted you probably want to back it off some until you find out just how much torque the bolts will stand. I know those bolts are tough, just don't know how tough.



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edchainsaw

09-05-2005 21:21:44




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 Re: butler grain bins in reply to RustyFarmall, 09-02-2005 15:32:53  
some of the bins we have are really old (50 or 60 yrs) and they do not have seals around any bolts.. they dont rot at the bolts the rot happens at the door and the openings..


heck these bolts are just metal cap screws with flanges they dont have a seal what so ever.. use the old bolts... they will be fine if you lap the sheets right and put a caucking of high quality on each sheet above and below the bolt rings. I know bolts are cheep but they dont get that bad either..

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