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Rusting tablesaw

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Oldman1151

08-31-2005 12:56:42




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I have a new tablesaw with a cast iron table which is rusts lightly very easily. The demo saw in the store where I bought it was rusting also (very light). The salesman told me to apply a coat of car paste wax or use WD40 to prevent the rusting. I have been using WD40 which works but is a hasstle cleaning off when I want to use the saw and then having to reapply afterword. Is the car paste wax a good idea? What is the best way to prevent the rust on a cast iron tablesaw? My shop is in the end of a 40' x 70' new barn which is not excessively damp. A dehumidifier is out of the question.
Wayne

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Jet9N

09-03-2005 14:50:34




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
Mine is in an unheated, but dry shed. I just put a layer of sawdust on it when I'm done using it.It had a light rust on it when I got it, but it hasn't gotten any worse while doing this. My dad used to throw a canvas tarp over it. That worked fine too.

Jet



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Glen in TX

09-02-2005 21:32:49




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
Plain paste wax without the silicones. If you can find it use bowling alley paste wax.



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chvet73

09-02-2005 13:18:32




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
As a Shop teacher with 30 years experience, nothing works better than old fashioned paste wax.



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JR in TX

09-01-2005 14:59:33




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
Linseed oil



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Byron Sellers

09-01-2005 13:41:18




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
I am a finish woodworker and am aware of the pitfalls of using the wrong stuff on the saw. Top Coat is a very good product, but expensive.
I use it about twice a year and baby powder applied with a chaulk eraser after every use and have no rust.



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big fred

08-31-2005 21:41:09




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
I've used Turtle Wax car wax on mine for the past 6 years or so. Keeps the rust away (except for the time I left some cedar boards on the tablesaw top) and makes the workpiece slide easily. When it does rust (danged cedar boards) a Scotchbrite pad cleaned it right up, ready for another coat of Turtle Wax.



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DL

08-31-2005 18:11:50




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
Howdy,
Nothin' like paste wax an' a little elbow grease to keep your machines in good shape... I use it on ALL of mine! It even reduces the effort required to push the wood through! ...be sure to get plain ol' wax, though. Most of the newer brands contain silicone... don't use 'em! The silicone will penetrate the wood and make finishing difficult, if not impossible! HTH
Regards, DL



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xragman

08-31-2005 18:08:57




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
old carpenter trick;rub all machine surfaces that contact wood parts with bee's wax. get it at most gro.stores or lumber yard. bar soap also works good; rub metal surface of tools before each use.



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M T Pockets

08-31-2005 18:05:15




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
I painted mine with clear polyurethane, like you would use on hardwood floors. No more rust. Mine actually sits in an open shed where rain can blow in on it. No rust. thanks. M T Pockets.



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Robert in W. Mi.

08-31-2005 17:40:52




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
Lots of wood workers (includeing me) use a paste wax, and it does work well. I've also not had staining problems and i believe it's because the wax fills the pores of the cast iron more than sit on the top of it.

I've had guys tell me that the product "Top Coat" that was already mentioned, also work very well...

Robert



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KB

08-31-2005 17:30:24




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
I have used funiture paste wax for 15yrs. now and end up appling a couple times a year or more if I use the equipment a lot. Have never had any issues with staining.



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Upred

08-31-2005 16:41:48




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
If you are going to finish your woodworking projects I would stay away from any type of wax or oil product. Unless you are going to clean the saw off before starting. I would recommend a product called Topcoat made by Bostick prevents rust and prevents sticking without affectting your project. I got mine from Rocklers -- Rick



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

08-31-2005 15:50:56




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
Cast iron exposed to air is going to rust. Your options are to use it constantly, oil it, or paint on some other compound to cover the metal.

I keep my planer in a garage and have discovered that a bit of 80/90 gear oil works well to clean it up, reduce sticking from damp or green lumber, and prevent and cure rust.

Surprisingly, the heavy stuff stains less than lighter oils. WD40 is the worst I have seen for staining hardwoods.

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tech4

08-31-2005 13:45:51




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
I had a similar problem with my bandsaw. I tried WD 40 and several auto polishes with silicon and so on but with poor results. I had some Carnauba wax that I bought at a flea market one time and tried it and it has really worked for me and it makes it easier to slide boards when I saw on the bandsaw.



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Vern-MI

08-31-2005 13:30:40




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
This is just an idea and something I have not tried. Use some of that rust converter stuff for surfaces which already have rust. It is supposed to convert any rust which is in the pores of the cast iron and then forms a protective seal or black oxide barrier to guard against any further rusting. It does turn the surface black so you won't have a shiney cast iron surface to look at.



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Ludwig

08-31-2005 13:00:39




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 Re: Rusting tablesaw in reply to Oldman1151, 08-31-2005 12:56:42  
I'd think a good car wax would be fine. Wax on, wax off. Use a good wax, the dollar store stuff is junk.



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