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Flux Cored Welding

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Robert J Spence

01-25-2001 14:21:49




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I have just tried flux core ( Innershield 212 ) in my Lincoln LN-25 feeder/ Invertec 350 combo, and I am a little surprised by the weld.
I am used to nice looking welds with 7018 and with solid wire but the appearance of the welds with the flux wire seems totally different.
Not having used it before maybe I am expecting a welding appearance that Flux Core does'nt provide.
Anyone have any comments?

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T_Bone

01-25-2001 15:46:03




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 Re: Flux Cored Welding in reply to Robert J Spence, 01-25-2001 14:21:49  
Hi Robert, Flux cored will look like 7018 if properly applied. Welding with flux cored, it does take some getting used to a different looking weld puddle. The flux boils (for lack of a better term) out to the top of the weld puddle giving a apperence that the weld puddle is proper width when actually it's not. I find that looking at the back of the weld puddle is more accurate in judging when it's time to move. The length of tip to base metal must also be kept at a proper "continuous" distance, 1/8" to 1/4". Most welders have to tendancy to vary the distance as there welding. Make sure your wire speed is correct for the amount of amps and should sound like bacon frying.

When having problems most welders will do better at higher amps as the flow will seam easier.

If you would give some more details of what exactly is wrong it will help solving your problems. Are you welding indoors/outdoors, metal thickness, wire diameter, tip size, cup size and length to end of tip, did you clean the base metal 1" on either side of weld joint, weld bead narrow/wide, pot holes in the weld face, undercutting, toe of weld not straight, joint design?

I know it's asking a bunch, but it will help to tell what to suggest.

T_Bone

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Robert J Spence

01-25-2001 16:19:13




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 Re: Re: Flux Cored Welding in reply to T_Bone, 01-25-2001 15:46:03  
The weld has a good shape, no undercut, pinholes, etc.
The wire size is .068 at about 23 volts , DC- as specified. For lack of a better description the weld looks like a puddle of molten cast iron. There is no distinct ripple on the surface as you would see with 7018 or solid gas shielded wire.
I thought maybee it just had a different appearance being a "general purpose" wire and maybee I should try some other type?

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al

01-25-2001 19:45:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Flux Cored Welding in reply to Robert J Spence, 01-25-2001 16:19:13  
Robert,
Try a little more voltage or less wire speed.They are your parameters to flaten out the weld.Also stickout is important as it lets the wire heat up and let's the flux do it's thing. I don't think self shielded flux core will ever look as good as 7018 except for a certain # I think nr232 ,that stuff you had a hard time getting the flux out of your way especialy in a groove.211 and 212 will make a descent weld when you get familiar with it.Sounds like you have to play with the settings.

If you want a pretty high quality weld put some Lincoln 71M gas shielded flux core in your LN-25.
This is probably what you are looking for. Wels out of position very well,no splatter like 212 but is limited to inside work or low wind outside.You would have to put a gas solenoid on the ln25 and a gas shield gun.

al

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T_Bone

01-25-2001 17:55:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Flux Cored Welding in reply to Robert J Spence, 01-25-2001 16:19:13  
Hi robert, I'm probably not the one to diagnose a filler wire problem as I've only ran a 30lb spool. We just didn't use it for our type of welding as we were not impressed with it. On heavy structural welding outside, I think it would do just great. I do remember it took getting use too and the welds did look decent but not like stick or Mig. Have you got the correct polarity? Some of it was DCRP.
And sometimes when I had problems, I would use a different polarity although it's spec'd the oppisite way.

Maybe Steve will chime in here and give the straight poopee scoopee.

T_Bone

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jimmyzz

01-26-2001 09:48:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Flux Cored Welding in reply to T_Bone, 01-25-2001 17:55:59  
You might try running nr-211, this is an easy to run wire, with operator appeal. multi position. try different voltage. then adjust speed as you weld. straight polarity.



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