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TIG welding SS pipe?

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al

01-24-2001 20:22:05




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I'm practicing for a stainless pipe test.They recomend a 3/32 gap and rootface [land] Ive played with both thes dimensions mainly shrinking the land.I am still having a problem with suckback or internal undercut or shallow bead on the inside .Any suggestions??/

al




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T_Bone

01-25-2001 07:01:50




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 Re: TIG welding SS pipe? in reply to al, 01-24-2001 20:22:05  
Hi al, You have way to much root opening in any case. You didn't say sch40 pipe or? Your probably in too much of hurry and too many amps. Try .045 filler rod for the root pass and use .045 filler rod as the gap and land measurement measurement. Yes you will have suckback but slow down and add filler rod to fill the outside and the undercut will go away. Once the root pass is in, then crank up some amps and haul butt with 1/16 or 3/32" filler rod.

When you start your root pass, hold the arc in one spot until you see the weld puddle swrilling, this should take about 2 minutes at proper amps for a given land thickness and given joint gap, at that point you starting to penetrate the land, then all of a sudden the weld puddle will sink to the inside, thats when 100% weld penetration occurs to the inside, add filler rod and move the torch at the same time. Your base metal fills the inside and the filler rod fills the joint.

I rock the root pass if the test pipe is sch40 or more, if not then I drag the torch ligthy on the base metal using a ceramic cup. Do not use a lava cup without rocking or not touching the base metal as the lava cups stick to the base metal amd makes the weld puddle to hard to control.

Use a clear welding lenns on the end of the pipe so you can see your root pass on the inside. Masking tape works great for holding the lens and for making a end plate cover. Use a 1/16" diamter bleed hole at the "top" of the endcap as argon is heavier than air with 5cft/hr purge flow.

Clean 1" on either side of the weld joint. Clean until white metal is seen. That is the oxidation. Yes all metals will oxidize including SS. When the SS wire brush starts grabbing the base metal is when the white metal should show up.

Let me know if I can help.

T_Bone

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al

01-25-2001 10:09:41




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 Re: Re: TIG welding SS pipe? in reply to T_Bone, 01-25-2001 07:01:50  
Thanks T-Bone,
I didn't include that the last couple I practiced on I would add more filler than required "just fill the gap" they came out respectable.The pipe is schedule 40 I am practicing on but the test is sch 20 ,8 inch. I am using a Miller Inverter on the lift arc setting with no remote.
Do you look for a definate keyhole?That's interesting,2 minutes to let it heat up?
What amperage would you be at under my circumstances?

Thanks al

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T_Bone

01-25-2001 11:45:23




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 Re: Re: Re: TIG welding SS pipe? in reply to al, 01-25-2001 10:09:41  
Hi Al, You don't want a key hole while Tig welding. Reread what I posted about your weld puddle and the swrilling action of the puddle. This is very important to understand how the inside bead gets there and the filler rod is only added to fill the undercut left by the weld puddle leaving to fill the inside bead! Yes that 2 minute rule of thumb sets your heat range no matter if your using 3/32" tungston (my choice) or 1/16" or the land thickness.

One item I forgot to cover was restarting your weld once you stoped. Start back over the bead where you left off by 1/4", heat that until you see the swrill of the puddle then move forward. This will take longer than 2 minutes to get going again because it thicker. Just watch for the swrilling.

A sch20 test should be made in two passes. I have made a one pass test but only if it was a requirement of the test and not by choice.

T_Bone

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T_Bone

01-25-2001 12:00:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TIG welding SS pipe? in reply to T_Bone, 01-25-2001 11:45:23  
Hi Al, I should include my over all Tig welding fix. Use only all glass welding lens! The reason is, that a plastic lens will give you TWO weld puddles because of distortion. Just look really close at your weld puddle and all of a sudden another puddle will appear, so which one is the true weld puddle? That goes for the tinted glass as well. I liked the all glass gold cool-ray lens even though it's $60 but well worth it and I used two clear lens one outside and one inside. This applys to all types of welding but is very noticable on Tig welding.

T_Bone

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Outlaw

01-25-2001 05:13:22




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 Re: TIG welding SS pipe? in reply to al, 01-24-2001 20:22:05  
try www.aws.org



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