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Need help selecting an Aircompressor

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Glen Thibodeaux

08-26-2005 17:42:58




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Does anyone have any advice as to who makes the best aircompressor in the 5hp range? If I'm going to use it for air tools and spray painting, should I be looking for something larger than 5hp? Is a 5hp 110V better tha a 5hp 220V? Thanks for your help.
Glen




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kendall

08-30-2005 14:31:02




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 Re: Need help selecting an Aircompressor in reply to Glen Thibodeaux, 08-26-2005 17:42:58  
I bought a Campbell Hausfeld 20 years ago and it's still in fine condition. I think it's 4.5cfm @ 90psi. Check the cfm requirements of your biggest tool and use that as a guide. This one does everything I need but it cant keep up with a DA sander running full time.



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hawaiirocky

08-29-2005 21:32:05




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 Re: Need help selecting an Aircompressor in reply to Glen Thibodeaux, 08-26-2005 17:42:58  
I bought a new oil-less Sears compressor in a pinch one day, figuring it would run a tire machine for a short while. That was about four years ago and it's still working. This is the 175 PSI model but in actuality it cuts off at about 140. Misleading advertising. I'd say it's ok for home use, but nothing more.



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buickanddeere

08-28-2005 20:41:16




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 Re: Need help selecting an Aircompressor in reply to Glen Thibodeaux, 08-26-2005 17:42:58  
" As others will soon say, don't look at horsepower so much as look at CFM's (cubic feet per minute of delivered air)". Couldn't say it better myself. If you found a 5HP 120V motor. The running current would be around 45 amps and require #6 cable and a 80 amp time delay fuse. 240V will run fine off a 30amp circuit/plug that 4800W milkhouse heaters run on. The running current will be 20-25 amp depending on the motor design and run capacitor size. #10 wire will do fine and 40 amp D fuses.

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Charles (in GA)

08-26-2005 18:26:14




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 Re: Need help selecting an Aircompressor in reply to Glen Thibodeaux, 08-26-2005 17:42:58  
As others will soon say, don't look at horsepower so much as look at CFM's (cubic feet per minute of delivered air).

Most portable compressors, and single stage stationary units give PEAK or STARTING horsepower, while Most Two stage compressors will give their horsepower in RUNNING hp. Big difference, apples and oranges. Starting hp is really bogus, designed to make it look alot more powerful than it really is.

A 5 hp STARTING hp compressor is really about 1-3/4 to 2 hp RUNNING, which is how all electric motors are really rated.

Questions..... .

Do you want a stationary or a portable unit?

What do you intend to run with it, There is only one of you, so you can only use one air tool or air consumer at a time, so what is the highest consumption item you might run? Blast cabinets will require 16 to 19 CFM's which is basically a two stage, 5 running hp, 80 gal tank compressor. Everything else will get along on alot less.

Is this almost daily, in the evening type shop use, or once a week use, or what?


Do not shortchange yourself. Buy the biggest you can afford comfortably, you will not regret it. Money spent on capacity you don't use is never a real concern, but capacity needed that you don't have because you cheaped out, will be remembered every time you go to use it.

Spray painting uses a fair abount of air but if you are doing quality spray painting nowdays, you probably should invest in a HVLP gun and turbine setup to get the best paint job.

One word to the wise, buy an oil type compressor. DO NOT get an oilless or dry pump compressor. They are very noisy, generally short lived, and you will regret it till the day it blows up.

Quincy make good units, both portable and stationary.

Cambell-Hausfeld makes some decent oil filled units, not commerical quality but good none the less. I've named just a couple off the top of my head, there are lots more.

There are several other good stationary brands such as Champion, speedaire, IR of course.

I put in a $1600 (now up to $1700) stationary unit. 7-1/2 hp, two stage, 175 psi regulated down to 100 (for good steady air flow and less cycling) and an 80 gal tank. Its a Home Depot Husky, made by Cambell-Hausfeld. Decent unit, stayes powered up 24-7 and is there any time I need it. I intend to buy a blast cabinet but haven't yet. I don't regret the expense at all, I smile every time I use it, all the air I need and more.

Charles

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Mark/Ks

08-28-2005 18:10:48




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 Re: Need help selecting an Aircompressor in reply to Charles (in GA), 08-26-2005 18:26:14  
Charles; What do you think of a Craftsman Air compressor.. If they have an oil filled one still avaialbe??? thanks...



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Charles (in GA)

08-28-2005 19:36:05




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 Re: Need help selecting an Aircompressor in reply to Mark/Ks, 08-28-2005 18:10:48  
Looking at www.sears.com I see they have a selection of IR and Cambell-Hausfeld units available. One unit in particular is a deal. They have the 7.5hp C-H unit for $1499, which is $100 less than I paid two years ago for the exact same unit with the HomeDepot/Husky name on it (and a C-H data plate) and HD is up to $1700 now.

Don't get me wrong, there are better compressors out there, and in most cases you'll pay for them too.

The oil lubed Craftsman branded units are all an aluminum pump with steel sleeves. I had one of these, it worked well, but was loud also. The aluminum just doesn't deaden sound well.

Kinda like my old 70 mustang. It had an iron Tecumseh A/C compressor, I replaced it with an identical York aluminum unit, It was so loud that I finally replaced it with another Tecumseh iron unit.

C-H and Quincy both have all cast iron oil lubed portable units. They are heavy, and expensive, but to me, worth it.

Charles

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