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OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT

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Rusty Scupper

08-26-2005 08:46:28




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The other day a neighbor called and asked if her boy and friend could play down by my pond. I reluctantly said ok, but told her I didn't want them throwing stuff (logs, etc) in it.

I came home from work and found one of the windows out in my hay barn. I crawled up into the loft and found pop bottles, bales broken open, flashlight sprawled about.

They went into my horse trailer, helped themselves to the pop, candy, took the flashlight out to the barn (not sure what else was taken)

The neighbor brought him over to apologize which is good, but what gives with kids these days.

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Nolan

08-31-2005 05:37:12




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
Kids have done dumb and destructive things since they were first created. Shoot, just read the bible about the first two. We all tend to wear rose colored glasses when looking back at the "good ole days", but some of you, shesh!



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300Randy

08-30-2005 06:24:10




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
I read the post by Mark and didn't relize that there are still places like that here in America.
Sounded how life was maybe 50-100 years ago, good to see its still around.



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SteveB1

08-29-2005 20:30:55




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
Hey, We where all young and stupid once in our lives. Some pop broken hay, and a dead flashlight, Don't seem likm the end of the world.
I get so pissed by all these poster happy land freaks around here screaming about there land.You want to hunt on my land I say go ahead. a few kids on atv's cutting through go ahead. That's the way things used to be when I was young. Many of my neighbors I see in church, I would rather be a good neighbor than the man with a chip on my shoulder..... .just venting SB

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Rusty Scupper

08-31-2005 07:37:57




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to SteveB1, 08-29-2005 20:30:55  
Wow... I didn't anticipate this much response. SteveB1 - While it isn't the end of the world, it is the unknown of what else was taken, broken or tampered with. I had a knife in the barn that I used to cut hay strings. That is missing. While I can easily replace it but if it was shoved in a bale of hay, thrown in the pasture or in the many bags of shavings that were cut open. I don't want a vet bill.

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Cynicism Runs Rampant

08-28-2005 02:52:13




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
As the saying goes, "spare the rod, and spoil the child", the only thing a brat understands is pain, the very definition of child, precludes any attempt to reason with them.
The worst thing is, you can't get away from them and their antics, you go out to eat, and someones squalling brats ruin your meal, you go shopping and the little "ba#$%^ds" are underfoot.
Thank you liberals for more of your meddling and useless "teachings".

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I Like Case

08-27-2005 21:25:09




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
I disagree with most of the posts. It is not necessarily a "parenting" problem. It is a society problem. Heaven forbid that a parent discipline his kids the way one used to-they would end up in jail. Todays society leaves it up to the kids to decide if they are being diciplined or abused. You spank a kid and he calls the authorities and you are in trouble. If you don`t discipline them then you lose too.

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TomR Ont.

08-27-2005 21:59:51




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to I Like Case, 08-27-2005 21:25:09  
I like Case-
My son in law enddup in anger management classes for yelling at my granddaughter - she dropped the dime to the childrens aid because she couldn't have her own way.
What's a parent to do, Glad I'm done with bringing up kids in this political correct mixed up world.



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cannonball

08-28-2005 08:14:53




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to TomR Ont., 08-27-2005 21:59:51  
you cannot wait till they are too old, it has to start very very young, from the first no ...oh yes if one told me they would call the law, i would say go ahead, i can whip your butt a long time before they get here...the lord tells all what to do, we have taken him out of everything why not the home too...may god bless all.....



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T_Bone

08-28-2005 01:11:04




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to TomR Ont., 08-27-2005 21:59:51  
Hi tom,

My daughter at 13 came home from school and was getting her tussie chewed out for acting like a 5yr old as she didn't want to do her chores and was getting the idea that her tussie was going to be singing a different tune.

Her response " My teacher said if you touch me I can have you arrested"

My Response "Yep you sure can just as soon as you get out of the hospital"

Her eyes are huge by this time and I continued

" If I'm going to get arrested, it will be because I did abuse you and you will be the first one to know it"

My daughter quit acting like a 5yr old and did her chores and we never had to have that conversasion again. This was 23yrs ago so it's nothing new.

When a child thinks they can control the parents, the home is no longer a home.

T_Bone

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TomR Ont.

08-28-2005 14:15:44




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to T_Bone, 08-28-2005 01:11:04  
T-Bone Things have reeeeally changed in the last 23 years -
They are being programmed at school to report any harsh punishment they get, you can't even ground then for 2 weeks without TV, too crule and harsh.
You are not allowed to spank even the worst brat, no mater what they do, just pay if they broke someone's antique vase.
The teachers are not allowed to hug a child that skins their knee, that's inappropriate touching.

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cannonball

08-27-2005 04:49:11




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
its called parents thinking their kids are angels and not using the board of education on their behinds..using time out what a joke...may god bless



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Hermit

08-26-2005 18:11:36




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
I think the proper question should be "What gives with parents these days?" Children are a reflection of the parents' character.



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DL

08-26-2005 19:26:11




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Hermit, 08-26-2005 18:11:36  
You hit the nail squarely on the head!!! When we're out and are subjected to children behaving badly, my first reaction is to scowl at the kids... but my missus reminds me... it's the parents that are to blame!!!
Regards, DL



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Dannie

08-27-2005 02:44:05




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to DL, 08-26-2005 19:26:11  
Kids like that is why I am a mean old man.



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MAC,IL

08-27-2005 06:31:03




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Dannie, 08-27-2005 02:44:05  
Dannie: A big relief to know that I am not the only mean old man. I even get called a P****. once in a while or crazy old man by ones that are 60 years younger than I. I am even honored with a flip off some times. Makes my day.



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hawaiirocky

08-26-2005 16:50:36




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
Some of my best times were fishing in those farm ponds, too bad the lawyers have got everyone so worried. Last year I built a see-saw for my kids, and I've already been warned many times that someday I'll be sued over someone's kid getting hurt on it. I say, "Bring it on." I just can't let a lawyer run my life.



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Rusty Scupper

08-26-2005 13:04:32




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
The boys must be around 10 or 11. It was one of those damned if you do damned if you don't. I thought about liablilty but also thought I should be "neighorly". When I was a kid, I wouldn't have gone in the outbuilding let alone the trailer. Now as a parent I wouldn't have called my neighbor and asked if my kid could play over there.



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hay

08-26-2005 12:30:52




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
when i bought my farm years ago, the neighbor came over and asked if her little boy could fish in my pond. i said no. i bought and paid for that place for MY USE ONLY. if they want to fish, then go get their own pond. i"m looking at liability lawsuit IF they get hurt or worse on my property. once they get started coming over, then next they will invite their friends and then who knows what could happen.

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mark

08-26-2005 16:52:49




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to hay, 08-26-2005 12:30:52  
Kids are kids and their curiosity is sometimes their undoing. I'm not saying it was okay for them to pilfer, but go light on them. One of these days they may be your future farm hands.

I know people who take the hard attitude of 'what's mine is mine and the rest of stay off MY place'. That $hit will come around to bite you in the a$$ someday. Nobody likes a greedy selfish neighbor. The day will come when you'll need something, maybe help while your house burns down while your neighbors stand and watch the show and laugh at your just desserts.

I have a neighbor who is past 80 now. I used to bushhog the right of way between his place and mine. Everytime, he'd come out and tell me that was his property and had the deed for it. So, I quit trying to be neighbor to him and when the weeds got 4 feet high he complained nobody would help keep the road clean. I told him property ownership had it's responsibilities, it wasn't mine and be d@mned if I was going to mow it again. Life is a two way street.

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gcs

08-27-2005 14:25:44




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to mark, 08-26-2005 16:52:49  
Hi Mark, Selfish, greedy neighbors get their just rewards?
How about some people plain suck! whether kids or adults.
Tresspassing, poaching, stealing,and, just for fun, burning down the house!

All this on my Grandmothers property after she died.
The property was never posted, and no one was denied access to the pond, or to pick berries or cut Christmas trees. She never had a cross word with anyone.
Guess if they had been caught, we should have gone easy on them to be neighborly, huh.

You can"t tell me folks in the area didn"t know who was responsible, probably felt like you, just let it go.
This was some years ago and I"m still pissed.
You can have those nice country folks move in next to you, then maybe you"ll have a change of heart, or at least a clue.

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FC

08-29-2005 11:11:27




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to gcs, 08-27-2005 14:25:44  
I have had some of the same problems on the place I now live on. No one had lived there since my grandmother in the early 1970's. My dad raised cattle on it up until his passing in 1999. During that time he had several confrontations with individuals who thought they could do as they wished on the land. When I inherited the place I noticed that the outbuildings were being ransacked (especially during hunting season). One of the neighbors was combining the seed off and left the gate open overnight. At least one vehicle had driven through the pasture to the old house and buildings and I found the door broken down and everything trashed. I have found no option other than post the property and I now actively enforce the signs now that I live there. Like someone else said - no respect for the property or owner. I would have no problem with someone fishing, or enjoying the creek but no one ever asks, and I have no way of knowing the good ones from the bad ones. Yes, I am having problems with my fence being cut, etc from the ones I run off, but I feel I will prevail, and they had better not get caught in the act. Wish it did not have to be this way, but that is the world we live in today. I show the same respect I am given. One individual riding a dirt bike on me told me he had done as he pleased for 27 $%#$ing years there. I informed him he was finished that day, and if he was not gone before I returned he could explain it to the judge. I have found it best that I not carry a gun, as I have been upset enough to use one if it had been within reach. Bad situation to be in. Too many people today with guns, ATVs, etc with no place to use them, and think it is their god-given right to ride or hunt wherever they wish.

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hay

08-27-2005 06:21:43




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to mark, 08-26-2005 16:52:49  
i hear what you are saying mark, however it is MY place and i simply don't want anyone else using it, and most especially when i'm not there. all it takes is one accident and the lawyers will own my farm. as a matter of fact i do help neighbors when the occasion arises and will continue to do so, but i still want no one using my place at all. and no, i'm NOT a greedy selfish person, just cautious.

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mark

08-28-2005 11:20:55




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to hay, 08-27-2005 06:21:43  
Let me set the record straight.

I was born and raised in Greenup County Kentucky and have lived here all my life. I am 47 years old. It is rural here and I know everybody around here on a first name basis, there daddy and mother and most of their kids. I have 2 places, one is 7 acres and the other 192 acres. There is river bottoms on the big place and a pond on the little one. I hunt on all my neighbors and they hunt on me. We don't know what a property line is when it comes to hunting. I can walk for miles and cross lots of fences without hesitation and never worry about some selfish ba$tard running me off. IF I ever see anybody, the reaction is 'how many squirrels you get?' or 'see anything?' When the kids show up at the pond I don't run them off. If I bother at all, I may walk over and see if they caught anything, might even take them a cold can of pop and a can of monkey peckers (viennas). I ride my kids on a 4 wheeler in the pasture and of the neighbor kids come to ride, they are welcome. Now, when I'm in a bind and need a tool or some help...I don't mind asking for it and I always get it. My garden burnt up this year, but no matter. I had bushels of tomatoes left on the back porch, always plenty of watermelons and cantaloupes, apples, peaches, blueberries, peaches.....even cobblers and pies handed to me for gratis. Now MY name is on the deeds and MY money makes the payments, but none of this belongs to me.....it's only on loan while I walk this Earth. It was farmed long before me and may be farmed when I am dust. May be full of houses for all I know. For the time being, I lose no sleep about what MIGHT happen, but enjoy sharing the bounty I have been privledged to enjoy. It's everybodies perogative to post their land and cuss because somebody has stepped on THEIR property. To each his own.

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I Like Case

08-30-2005 16:03:14




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to mark, 08-28-2005 11:20:55  
I`m with you 100% Mark. If I see someone stopped along the road I stop to see if they need help. If I see someone walking, I stop and offer them a ride. If I see a neighbor loading equipment or doing something and it looks like they could use a hand, I stop offer to help. This summer the girl friend just could not understand why a neighbor would stop by uninvited and help through a couple hundred bales with out expecting to get paid for it. He MUST be after something?? Yep, just looking to be good neighbor.

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buickanddeere

08-26-2005 12:05:22




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
How old was the kid(s)?



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dr.sportster

08-26-2005 09:41:15




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to Rusty Scupper, 08-26-2005 08:46:28  
You invited them.Next time have the parents sign a form that all butt kickings will be done by you.Lucky they didnt smoke and burn the whole barn down.



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Bob

08-26-2005 09:43:10




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 Re: OT - Neighbor boys going thru stuff - RANT in reply to dr.sportster, 08-26-2005 09:41:15  
Also, lucky they didn't drown in the pond!



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