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OT: Power Surge Killed Computer

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Slowpoke

08-18-2005 22:21:48




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Daughter came home to find a power company truck parked in front of the house. The serviceman said there was a power surge and he was there to find out why the house next door had lost power to all wall recepticals. Her computer will power on (the fan runs) but the screen is black. The keyboard is wireless, so there is no self check lights on it.
Any ideas what could be wrong?




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Slowpoke

08-19-2005 10:53:39




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
Gentlemen, thanks for all the replies. It turned out to be a minor problem that only required "reseting" the moniter. I have no idea what that means or how it was done, but my daughter did it herself. The computer is said to work fine now. Time will tell. Thanks again.



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Mark - IN.

08-20-2005 07:16:53




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 Tell her to get a UPS in reply to Slowpoke, 08-19-2005 10:53:39  
Can get a 300 watt UPS (Uninterrupted Power Supply) from Best Buy, Comp USA, and others for a little over $100. Is cheap insurance to lose $100 vrs. the cost of a computer. UPS's do two things, allow for an orderly shutdown during a power loss, and the battery filters AC ripple and spikes across commercial AC for the most part. Is not to say lightning won't blow them both out of the water, but for the most part, will do a good job. Is not a bad idea to have surge suppression between the UPS and commercial AC as well. Don't put the surge suppression between the UPS and the computer, because it consumes power too, depleting the UPS's reserve faster.

I deal with telephone systems for a living. The preferred method is DC systems, rectifiers, huge battery vaults. But for those smaller AC systems, get a UPS to help insure some pretty expensive investments, and the larger the UPS, the longer the up time during power outages, and the bigger the AC filter.

Mark

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Ludwig

08-22-2005 14:30:41




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 Re: Tell her to get a UPS in reply to Mark - IN., 08-20-2005 07:16:53  
Those cheap POS UPSes kill plenty of computers. They don't have any kind of regulation on the charging circuit so they'll just pump power into the battery eventually killing it. Notice how hot they tend to get. Then all holy heck can break loose.
Just get a good quality surge protector(like not from the dollar store) and you're about as safe as you can get. Get a good surge and it gets eaten but your computer is safe.

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Slowpoke

08-20-2005 10:45:16




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 Re: Tell her to get a UPS in reply to Mark - IN., 08-20-2005 07:16:53  
The house has only two wire recepticals without ground. Not good for today's electronics. The building electrical needs to be brought up to date at a cost of several thousand dollars.



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MAC,IL

08-20-2005 07:37:45




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 Re: Tell her to get a UPS in reply to Mark - IN., 08-20-2005 07:16:53  
I picked up an APC power source thingy years ago, only replaced battery once. Gave about 100 bucks maybe a little more, forget. But it does give a guy time to shut down. It has some kind of warranty deal, but I dont know how good that is. I do know it beeps sometimes, and the house lites dont flicker. it is pretty sensitive.



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tech4

08-19-2005 10:28:55




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
First unplug computer and leave unplugged at least 15 minutes. Then plug back in and turn on and see if you have the same results. Many computer power supplies have an internal electronic reset that requires power off for a time. If that does not fix it then tell us what the symptoms are on the second go around.



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jeffcat

08-19-2005 08:31:55




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
Had the same thing two years ago. Go buy a new computer and spend the bucks on a GOOD power surge unit. $80.oo or more shood cover it. When the surge goes away the only thing still running was the fan. Jeffcat



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Coloken

08-19-2005 07:08:29




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
Just some thoughts; Power supplies are tough, I've known very few to burn out, except Gateway ones. Hope it isn't the MB. Look for indications that power is to the computer. Does the computer have a second fan? Can you hear the HD running? any lights blinking, Beeps? My monitor has a reset button. If it is the PS, they are easy to change. Not only surge suppresers, but backup power supplies are cheap. Maybe around 60 bucks. I have one on TV too. Real supprizing when the power go out and the TV keeps going.

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Ralph - Ohio

08-19-2005 05:45:37




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
Just my 2 cents worth:

When you turn the computer on do you see lights on the front panel? Will the CD or DVD drawers open? If so the power supply is probably OK and the first thing I'd do is try a different monitor. Most monitors up until the most recent flat screens are interchangable from one computer to another.



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MarkB_MI

08-19-2005 04:08:41




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
Most PC's have a beep code so you can diagnose boot problems even if the video is bad.

Usually one beep means everything is good. If this is the case, try another monitor.

Multiple beeps mean something is wrong; you'll have to check with the manual for your motherboard to read the code. (For example, maybe four beeps means the video card is bad.) Most motherboard manufacturer's post the manuals online.

No beeps means, most likely no power. Power supplies for generic computers are available at any computer store and are pretty cheap.

Before you start swapping parts, take a close look at the motherboard and other cards. If you see any visible damage, assume that part is bad. If you plug a good card into a bad motherboard, or vice versa, you could damage the good part.

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MLP

08-19-2005 04:08:13




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
It could be just the monitor is bad if it is I have fixed them for under $5.00 with a new MOV.
What ever the fix is get a surge suppressor. I have had 3-surge suppressors burn up that would have taken out the computer.



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Vern-MI

08-19-2005 03:54:54




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 Re: OT: Power Surge Killed Computer in reply to Slowpoke, 08-18-2005 22:21:48  
Power supply is toast. Hopefully the voltage regulators inside the supply just got fried and nothing else. Go to Newegg.com and find a suitable replacement. You can probably get a new supply for under $40 and it is simply a matter of plugging it in. Keep yourself grounded when working around these CMOS circuit boards so that more damage doesn't occur.



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