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RonMC

01-22-2001 19:41:18




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I was doing a little carpentry the other day for my sis-in-law, and I was thinking how bulky all the tools are-table saw, skilsaw, etc, and I'd like to know if anyone knows of any line of air-powered tools to do these jobs. Just think how handy it would be to use these at home, just the air line, no shocks, pull-apart plugs, etc. I'm sure there must be something (affordable)in this line besides the drills - any info ???

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Russ

01-24-2001 14:35:48




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 Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-22-2001 19:41:18  
I had the occasion to buy and use an Ingersoll-Rand pnuematic recip saw about 10 yrs ago. It was the only option because of the environment(knee deep water). It worked very well but I had massive air compressors at my disposal, and it wasn`t cheap either. $1100.00 US. Priced an I-R circ saw at the same time, it was about $1300. Came with a blade though. I`d consider the new generation of cordless tools before I`d ever buy another air saw.

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Fred OH

01-24-2001 10:36:02




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 Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-22-2001 19:41:18  
Ron, Don't know where you're at but around here the Amish people don't use electricity. I have been in a wood shop where the equipment was all powered by air. An internal combustion engine pumping air (outside) to the tools inside. The fellow made outdoor and patio type furniture. He must have made money with this setup cause he pointed to a load of oak lumber and said theres 15 thousand dollars. I suppose you could look at it, it's off of route 50 at Rainsboro, Ohio onto Barrett's Mill road to Greenbrier road and follow your nose. It's on the right. If theres any of the Amish farmers around, expect to do some talking. After they greet you, they will ask you if you heard anything about the weather. They don't use radios or televisions either. The guy and I have the exact same names and I guess we're somewhat alike... but I use mostly hot air. L8R----Fred OH

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pooya

12-23-2002 10:01:17




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 Re: Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to Fred OH, 01-24-2001 10:36:02  
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RonMC

01-24-2001 17:44:14




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 Re: Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to Fred OH, 01-24-2001 10:36:02  
Fred, I'd love to have a look, but it's a ways from the west coast of Canada, considering winter, mountain passes et al, but might get that way another season another year. Some interesting responses though. I'm a mechanic, and work in air for everything and I like the control it gives, and the power, but apparently it's not that way for all air tools. Maybe I'll run across one at a flea market and will get to try it a little cheaper than what the new prices sound to be. Thanks all for the info !

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Franz

01-23-2001 21:38:30




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 Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-22-2001 19:41:18  
There's an air powered saw on Ebay right now, minimum bid $100, located in Brooklin. Nobody else mentioned it yet, so I will. Plan on one damn big hose and compressor to run these tools. 3/8 might be fine for die grinders and chippers, but saws and similar tools need the same hose as a jackhammer. Air is the MOST expensive form of power. All that said, I once saw a Miller welder repowered to air, fool engineer felt it would be explosion proof in a tunnel. Nobody bothered to ask him how the arc would be explosion proofed, just took his money and laughed.

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Wardner

01-23-2001 20:49:41




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 Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-22-2001 19:41:18  
Almost any tool that is made with an electric motor is also made with air and hydraulic motors. I have airpowered skill saws, chain saws, recip saws, grinders, belt sanders, hoists, pumps of all kinds, along with the usual drills, scalers, DA's, ratchets, impacts, hammers, etc. These tools are used in industries where explosion proof is required. They can be used underwater. Manufacturers also buy them because they don't grow legs and walk out the door. From an energy point of view, air tools are inefficient because a high percentage of the energy goes out the exhaust just like an internal combustion engine. I would much rather have a tangle of electrical cords on the floor than a tangle of air hoses on the floor. Stay with the electric stuff. They are easier to handle and require less care/maintenance.

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RonMC

01-23-2001 21:21:57




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 Re: Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to Wardner, 01-23-2001 20:49:41  
Wardner, I know the efficiency may not be the same, but I was also interested in being able to use things outside, and here on the coast, we try not to get electrocuted in the rain. I would imagine they would be more expensive, but do you know any sources to browse re: prices, variety ? Thanks, Ron



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Wardner

01-24-2001 20:18:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-23-2001 21:21:57  
I rarely buy my tools and equipment new unless I need it now. I usually get my stuff at auctions and flea markets. Because air tools are not in demand, they go cheap. If you want to know what is available, you can check on-line catalogs from MSC, McMaster-Carr, Graingers, etc. Some of the products, like my 2-man air chain saw, are not going to show up there.



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T_Bone

01-23-2001 19:23:11




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 Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-22-2001 19:41:18  
Hi Ron, wouldn't you get oil from the exhaust on the wood? I'm with Ray, as it wouldn't be as efficent.

T_Bone



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Ray,In

01-23-2001 19:02:15




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 Re: Air tools for wood-working in reply to RonMC, 01-22-2001 19:41:18  
Air power is more costly, and less energy efficent, because you are producing power twice. First to create the elect., then to produce the air pressure.Air powered tools will bog down much quicker that elect. ones, and then you have the problem of the exaust blowing dust around. As if anyone needed more.If you get your idea to work, post another msg. I'd be interested in the outcome.



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