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Bus Driver

08-13-2005 08:09:25




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The family property is now mine, I bought the shares of the other owners. Pond overflow needed new cap a few years ago, one of the others, not mechanical at all, had one of his buddies make a "thing" for the top of the overflow pipe. Measured poorly, the pipe is 6" steel. The "thing" had 3/8 thick band around the pipe. The band was made too small and they just drove it onto the pipe (while in a boat) with a sledge hammer. Press fit. Band is under the water, naturally. Can't use torch to get it off. Don't have cordless Sawzall or grinder. Any way to cut that band other than sawing or grinding?

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dr.sportster

08-14-2005 10:49:35




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Bus Driver, 08-13-2005 08:09:25  
I have cut all kinds of things with normal hacksaw,new blade,sixty strokes per minute.Sometimes it took a couple days a little after work each day for thicker metals but eventually got through.When someone goes for a porta-band or sawzall at work,by the time they get back Im done with the hacksaw,stainless included.Not trying to brag about my hacksaw skill but a nice slow even pressure can go along way.Guys get spoiled with power tools for everything these days.I like the heaviest hacksaw filled inside with new blades.people are surprised how heavy my saw is but it works for me.

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Leland

08-13-2005 22:49:45




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Bus Driver, 08-13-2005 08:09:25  
A torch has it's own O2 supply it will cut under water don't belive me light your torch and stick it in a bucket of water .



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Bus Driver

08-14-2005 16:04:35




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Leland, 08-13-2005 22:49:45  
Leland, torch cutting requires getting the steel to the point of melting at one tiny place before hitting the oxygen lever. Exactly how is that heating done while the steel is under water?



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Leland

08-14-2005 16:41:39




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Bus Driver, 08-14-2005 16:04:35  
Bus deiver I have cut off old 4" oil field pipe that was 3' under water when i built a new duck blind and you need a large tip to do this , I belive I was using a #4 tip which is supposed to cut thru 6" of steel plenty of heat how do you think navy divers cut holes in things when they salvage them .



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BobMo

08-13-2005 15:18:06




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Bus Driver, 08-13-2005 08:09:25  
Use a hacksaw or a pipe cutter. They'll cut underwater. I don't think what you'll be cutting is tough anyway.



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kidbob

08-13-2005 11:04:58




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Bus Driver, 08-13-2005 08:09:25  
I have never done it but I have seen a cutting torch used under water, they supply there own oxygen.



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Bill in NorthCentral PA

08-13-2005 08:30:12




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 Re: Mess made by relatives in reply to Bus Driver, 08-13-2005 08:09:25  
I had an overflow that rusted away at the top. I took a 1" plastic piping and got it completely under water in the pond. I held the one end while the other end stayed (held by someone else) in the pond to create a siphon. When the water level went down (I left it for a week), I broke off the pipe (hammer) down to solid metal and put a furnco fitting and PVC pipe extension. When the pond filled up to the right level, I went out with a handsaw and cut the PVC off. Worked great for me - fifteen years and counting.

Good luck with it.

Bill

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