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Slowpoke

08-11-2005 21:11:54




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A few of the vines are near 3" thick- they've been growing for many years, as about 75x50feet of a hillside is underlaid with numerous roots. They grow up into trees and are a bear to get out. I've removed all those, but the low growing ones I want to spray and try to kill the root.
I've read posts that say to put a small amount of dish soap in Roundup to get it to stick better.
I'm using Orto Brush-B-Gon at the rate of 4 oz per gallon of water. The directions say to brush 100% killer on exposed roots but it kind of beads up and runs off. How much soap should I use per gallon? A teaspoon? A tablespoon?
Thanks for your help.

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Hal/WA

08-12-2005 20:54:03




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
Be real careful if you ever decide to burn what remains. A buddy of mine spent a couple of days in the hospital and had to take medication for a month after he burned the pile of poison oak he had cleared the fall before. The smoke is toxic and he had a pretty bad allergy reaction to it. Good luck, that stuff is hard to get rid of.



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Slowpoke

08-12-2005 23:53:31




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Hal/WA, 08-12-2005 20:54:03  
It's cut up into 4-6 inch pieces and placed in plastic bags for garbage pickup. And yes, it takes a long time to cut it.



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Redd

08-12-2005 19:47:30




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
The best thing is Tordon I believe from Dow. Full strength. Cut off the vine or tree and paint the stump or stem with a paint brush. I do this all the time with hard to kill brush like crabapple. Stuff like poison Ivy etc will survive 2-4-d and come back next year.



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sawtooth

08-12-2005 12:48:43




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
Your vine subject reminds me of last fall. Cleared some trails in the woods. There was a vine I'd cut off at the ground but it was tangled way up (probably 40 or more feet)in the tree. I hooked the atv to the vine with a fairly long chain. It was one instance where it didn't hurt to take a flying start! Several times after I took off the vine won, lifted the rear and pulled the atv backwards 15 or so feet! Wish I had it on video. But the atv won that tug of war, the long vine came tumbling out of the tree in a heap- what fun!

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RB/CT

08-12-2005 07:08:10




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
When I have Poison Ivy or Oak in that climbing situation, I cut the vine, and spray Round Up directly into the vine. This usually does it with the least amount of exposure or time. I've pulled them off before, and with gloves on, got nailed. Good luck. It will all fold up and die when treated.



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RegoR

08-12-2005 06:38:15




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
Hi Slowpoke;
I use a product called "Sticker Spreader". It comes in a small, 4 maybe 6 oz. bottle. You add a few drops to whatever liquid you're spraying. I buy it at the local farm supply.
BTW, how do you protect yourself from getting 'poisoned' by the PO?
Good luck!
RogeR



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Slowpoke

08-13-2005 00:22:25




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to RegoR, 08-12-2005 06:38:15  
Protection is hooded/footed chemical resistant one piece suit, safety glasses, and 10" industrial rubber gloves. But the sleeves tend to ride up and the stuff gets in on the wrists. Then scratching spreads it further up the arm. I'm going to go to longer gloves to prevent that. And it gets rather hot in the summer heat. A couple of weeks ago it seemed to get on my legs, arms, neck and ears, even with the safety gear. I was itching all over and miserable. Then I remembered that I'm allergic to certain laundry soaps, and I had just washed clothes in a different brand. After a couple of days, the soap problem cleared up, but the poison oak remained on the wrists for several more days.

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MAC,IL

08-12-2005 04:26:21




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
I use about an ounce of dishwashing det. Per gsl. But put it in the sprayer last and shake it a little. The elevator guys use stuff the just call stickum, some kind of liquid.



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Charles (in GA)

08-11-2005 21:46:42




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  
It doesn't take much, a teaspoon per gal would be alot. It is just to keep the water/roundup mix from beading up on the waxy leaves and running off. Makes the water spread out on the leaves, where it then dries and the chemical is asorbed by the leaf.

Charles



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Slowpoke

08-11-2005 21:19:28




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:11:54  

I hit the wrong button-that last line should be how much soap per gallon of diluted killer for spraying. I'll experiment with the full strength stuff with a few drops of soap.



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Tony C.

08-12-2005 05:05:17




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 Re: Poison oak in reply to Slowpoke, 08-11-2005 21:19:28  
A lot of the commercial Roundup products and generic glyphosate have a surfactant already added. The dish soap kind of does the same thing, it breaks the surface tension of the water so that it doesn't bead up and spreads over the leaf instead. If you add too much soap it can cause excessive runoff and also you will have a lot of bubbles and foam. It might pay you to buy a small size container of the concentrate that already contains the surfactant and mix your own. Look at the label directions before you buy and see if it mentions anything about adding surfactant or if it already contains it.

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