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Slofr8

08-06-2005 04:01:12

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Seeing a few posts on wells. I just had one drilled for a new house we're building. Driller called me at work... "200', 2 gal. a minute" I told him to go another 20'. Next call "still 2 gal." "go 20 more"
Just as I was about to call and tell him to stop at 300' he called and said he had 3 gals. at 240'. We left it at that and I figure it should give me about 300 gallons reserve.
$3326 for dlilling with 22' of caseing. Ledge after that. About $1500 for pump, tank and hook up.
Like everything else, Just slightly more than I budgeted for. :( Guy up the road has about 80 gals. at 100'. Guy down the road has 2 quarts!! at 400'!! Just wondering how deep (or not) some of your wells are.

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Nolan

08-09-2005 03:07:43

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

Jet well, 28', roughly 20 gallons per minute.

Was interesting last summer when we were so dry. Neighbors with 200' wells were going dry, I wasn't. Everyone around here is deep and sucking from the same aquafer. Being shallow, I'm the only one tapping this water.

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Can't even use my name

08-08-2005 19:38:08

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

'Round here (Extreme Northern IN) I have hit water diggin holes to burry stumps. Some in the muck and some in the sand. Dug through 3 foot of muck into beautiful pure white sand that gushed water. Have gone 12 feet down and hit water in some of the sand. We have one 2" well on the farm that feeds the house and it is at 45', kinda sulfur smelling sometimes and has a lot of iron. Other well is 137' 4" and it tastes fine, no sulfur but it too is hard. Several neighbors wells are at 40' and they have the best water I have ever tasted. Hoping when we drill mine in the next few weeks it is at least tasty.

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Gary in Geneva

08-08-2005 06:10:34

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

65 foot deep. 43 foot of casing - rest is screen. The pump is down 20' and will produce 20 gallons per minuit.

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paul

08-06-2005 14:21:38

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

260 feet, 5 inch casing, 40 years old, just needed the screen cleaned with acid for $1400 - if that failed, new well for $10,000 or so.Could get about 50 gal minute the driller told me after the screen was cleaned up. It's officially rated at 20 gal as that is what the pump & pipe can do all day long....

--->Paul

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Midwest redneck

08-06-2005 13:57:40

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

I had a well drilled 5 years ago, if you drill down 100' and use the 5"PVC casing then water will flow out of the PVC at about 80-100 gallons per minute, yes that much. I am over an artesian well, It is like an underground flowing river. Too bad it aint oil huh, I would be rich like Uncle Jed from the Beverly hillbillies.

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Robert E. Smith

08-06-2005 10:19:57

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

I got 11 gallons at 40 feet!
Father-in-law came over with a forked stick and located it for me! Always thought that was a bunch of bunk! That was till that day! He stuck that stick in my hand and told me how to hold it and said walk across that spot where he had just walked, Was abosolutely the wildest thing I ever experienced! I tried to stop that stick from twisting in my hands and couldn't stop it!
Gripped it so hard that it twisted the bark off of it!
As you walked around that stick would not only show you where the water was! But also where there was more of it from spot to spot by how the stick would bend down more in one spot than another!
Marked that spot had them drill right there! Got 11 gallons at 40 feet. Cost $17.00 a foot for a total of less than $750. for drilling and casing.
Have never run out of water, not even when I filled a 24 foot above ground pool twice! Made a believer out of me!

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Midwest redneck

08-06-2005 13:53:49

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Robert E. Smith, 08-06-2005 10:19:57

I heard of the stick trick too. Fill me in somemore, Is this really a joke?

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Coldiron

08-11-2005 08:05:24

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-06-2005 13:53:49

Don`t have to be sticks. Take two metal clothes hangers, straighten them out. Make a handle 4" then 90 deg bend, cut it off where the long end is about 18 to 20 ". Hold your elbows close to your sides, hands straight out with the hanger ends pointing outward. Holding the handles loose the rods will slowly move forward then cross as you step over the water course. Mark the spot then cross from the other direction. If you don`t find anything walk at a 90 deg direction from your original direction. Depth, take a 2` long green limb, strip leaves off, hold thin end and hold steady until it stops weaving. It will start to bob, count the bobs till they stop. Wait a while and it will start to bob again. count the bobs. The first set will be depth, the second count will be very close to gallons per min. I have seen this all work on my well and was taught it by the driller.

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Ludwig

08-08-2005 08:15:23

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-06-2005 13:53:49

Not a joke, I can do it. I don't even need the stick or wires or nothing, I can feel my finger twitch.
My Dad can do it too. He didn't teach me though. I was taught by an older gentleman who worked with several well drillers and never missed. He could tell with some reliability where the best water was and at what depth. Finding water is easy, knowing the depth is hard. I don't do it very often so I'm not sensitive to depth but I've helped a couple people sink wells and never missed.
On one I said to drill in one spot right under the fellow's rock pile. He had a big lot but the only place that felt right was right under this big rock pile. He didn't want to move the rocks and decided he'd drill about 10' away. I told him he'd get water there but it was very deep and right under the rock pile he'd get good flow quite shallow. Well he drilled anyway, got to 150' with nothing. He just sat while they drilled and watched me. At 150' he told the driller to have lunch and got his loader tractor. He moved the rock pile so the driller could get in. At 100' they'd hit 5gpm...
I never do it for pay though, doesn't seem right. That guy asked me what I wanted and I said it was worth it to see the look on his face at 100'.

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Slowpoke

08-11-2005 20:51:35

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Ludwig, 08-08-2005 08:15:23

I used to work with a guy who doused water for a good fee. He'd go out once or twice a month on the weekend, mostly to the gold country. But he was tight lipped about how he did it. I guess he didn't want any competition.

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Joe in IN

08-06-2005 22:23:56

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Re: O.T. more on wells-Water Witching in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-06-2005 13:53:49

In indiana 163 feet 150+ gal/min(not that it mattered my pump won't come close to that...)

Anyway about this water witching thing. I thought it was a bunch of sh*t... Until I bought some land(20 acres) and had to hook a drain to the tile buried below(5 feet down). Farmer had no idea other than the end rows.... I straightened out a clothes hanger.... and I'll be... they crossed.... I marked the spot. walked up 50 feet and marked where it crossed again. Did this 6 times and all my marks were in a line. Had to be it.... 6 months later when the backhoe was there I told the guy what I would do to find it(my markings weren't permanent). He laughed at me. I marked the spot, operator mentioned 'Well it's your money I'm by the hour).... 5 feet down exactly where I marked was the 6 inch Corregated draintile....

I'm convinced(even though I have read there is no science behind it...)

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Bill Drew

08-06-2005 19:45:23

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Worth a million in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-06-2005 13:53:49

If anyone can really find water/electric lines/gold/tin/... with a pair of twigs, they can collect a cool million by simply doing it in a controlled situation. Why would anyone sit in their back yard yacking if they can get that kind of money?

Take a look at the link below

Million Dollar Challenge

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Richard H.

08-07-2005 10:32:47

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Re: Worth a million in reply to Bill Drew, 08-06-2005 19:45:23

I looked at the site you posted and wonder why you did concerning this subject of "witching" things under ground. Are you saying that good ole Holey moley, metal detectors are not real? The guy"s you call before you dig are holding inadament objects in their hands also. You should try the wire trick in your own yard sometime, who knows maybe you are "Supernatural?" Respectfully... Richard

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old

08-06-2005 09:15:28

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

Drilled my well around 1983 100 foot deep hit water at 15 foot guy said 300 per minute at 15 foot. He was pumping my sring fed pond backwards. Hit good water at 75 foot but told him to go to 100' any way. When all was done had water 19 foot down.

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buickanddeere

08-06-2005 06:33:21

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

5" casing, 150ft deep and water 40 ft from the top. Filled the swimming pool running about 10 gpm for over a day. 3/4 HP submersable pump kept 55psi even when filling the pool.

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VaTom

08-06-2005 05:08:15

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Slofr8, 08-06-2005 04:01:12

Prices are about the same here, but most go 300'. Across the mountain, prices are about double, different geology.

Our pump is at 120', 2 gpm, which has not been a problem for the last 12 yrs even with the small reservoir. At the time, all the drillers guaranteed 1 gpm for $3000, hooked up. That didn't thrill me so I found a rig and bought it. Trailer-mounted and will only go 160' with a smaller bore, but it cost the same as one hole.

I did have to get the state health dept. to change the driller licensing rules to allow me to drill my own, unlicensed. Seems nobody had ever asked before. Only took 2 days wait, a very pleasant surprise.

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Cliff (VA)

08-08-2005 13:22:38

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to VaTom, 08-06-2005 05:08:15

I just had one drilled near Winchester, VA in the Shenandoah Valley. The well driller hit a shallow cave at 60' that cost me 80' of casing. Then he went down to 360' through solid limestone without hitting water. Got 4 gpm there and another 1 gpm in the additional 40' I had him drill.

I ended up at 400' with the water returning to 60'. Gives me over 300 gallons of storage.

This is not an uncommon depth in this area although it is on the deep side. Typically here due to the limestone (read caves) you are much more worried about coupling directly to surface water than wether you are going to find water. I have several sink holes on my property that I know about.

The whole thing less pump and hookup cost me ~$5300. I just hope the water is not too hard (I don't have the pump hooked up yet).

Cliff (VA)

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coup

08-10-2005 11:21:08

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to Cliff (VA), 08-08-2005 13:22:38

well 46ft,drilled before 1960 use to have some lack of water till my friend told me to taake off a breather hose someone had installed and fix airtight,it creates enough vaccum to pull extra water.... he installed a vaccumm pump on a few wells for people.....

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BigMarv1085

08-07-2005 08:26:59

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Re: O.T. more on wells in reply to VaTom, 08-06-2005 05:08:15

I have 3 wells, 2 6" (1 at 565'& 1 at 785') 1 bored at 60'. The 785' deep well has a large underground cavity approximatly 70' from the top of the ground that holds around 5'000 gallons.

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