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Flux core wire welder advise

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chuckinnc

07-19-2005 10:26:54




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I have problems with thin metal when using the
225 amp stick welder, there are several cheap
wire welders that use flux cored wire. Does any
one have any experience with one one of these, I
know i should spend the bucks for a good mig welder but i need a fast portable small welder for small jobs on 12 gauge or smaller metal.




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txgrn

07-20-2005 04:46:00




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to chuckinnc, 07-19-2005 10:26:54  
I just posted on the "Farmhand 75" that I bought from TSC for $99 a couple of days ago. I use it more and more every day. It welds thin stuff and just yesterday I was welding 1/4" brackets for my tractor seat and it just purred right along.

My welds with it aren't pretty like with the stick on DC with a 7018 rod, but I can grind them off and they look pretty.

Since it is 115v, I just put it on my work bench along side what I am working on and go to welding. I use the .035 flux wire.

Mark

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T_Bone

07-20-2005 04:11:05




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to chuckinnc, 07-19-2005 10:26:54  
Hi Chuck,

I agree that fluxed cored for thin gauge welding is not the ideal welding process as warpage will be servere. Joint design and prep would play a huge factor on controlling warpage for any process chossen.

A good GMAW machine with solid wire and cover gas will work alot better but will still warp thin SM even under the best of conditions as your putting in to much filler metal at one time thus causing a shrinkage problem or warpage.

You need a process where the least amount of filler metal is added to obtain 100% penatration and that leaves Tig or gas welding.

With Tig you can add filler metal or use the base metal as a filler thus obtian a very narrow bead causing the least amount of base metal distortion.

Gas welding can also be used for the same reason but is harder to learn than Tig. Once you master the Gas welding techinque you will then know why and what causes metals to join, why heat input control is very important, why the correct amount of filler metal is very important and what the true meaning of heat fusion is.

T_Bone

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Big Jim

07-20-2005 01:21:05




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to chuckinnc, 07-19-2005 10:26:54  
Flux core will do fine on 12ga, even OK on down to 16 but anything thinner than that really needs a true MIG. Those little flux-core rigs are darned handy. When it only takes 10 seconds to be ready to weld, you"ll find yourself welding a lot more stuff or, at least, I did.



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Mt Roy

07-19-2005 15:54:48




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to chuckinnc, 07-19-2005 10:26:54  
Bought a cheapy Harbor Frieght welder at a yard sale several years ago for light projects. Welded up a CACL rotted rim, there is no way I could have repaired it with a stick wilder. Definatly a good purchase.



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John V.

07-19-2005 11:50:38




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to chuckinnc, 07-19-2005 10:26:54  
Have a cheapee Century I bought just for that purpose. Have run about 10 2-pound spools of wire through it with no problems. Made my repair projects on sheet metal and thin square tubing much more enjoyable.



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oliverdave

07-20-2005 04:58:23




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to John V., 07-19-2005 11:50:38  
I have a flux core wire welder that I use and I like how it works. The advantage I see with the flux core is you don't need to buy gas and the wire for it is inexpensive.The machine is expensive though,the one I have is worth about $300 but its a good one.



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Van in AR

07-22-2005 21:14:49




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 Re: Flux core wire welder advise in reply to oliverdave, 07-20-2005 04:58:23  
Check out solid wire with gas. One time expense of buying bottle, (comes full!!!) gas 16.50 to swap bottles, wire solid, about $22.00 for a ten pound roll. Two rolls of wire to the bottle. Flux cored wire-$55.00 for a ten pound roll, go with gas youll never go back, welds are better too.
Van



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