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O.T. Flouresent lites

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Dave F.

07-19-2005 08:06:38




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This problem has plaged(sp) me for quite some time its seems like when it gets hot & humid the floresent lites in the garage, basement, & kitchen don't want to come on right away, I've changed sockets, ballast, swithes, bulbs any suggestions Thanks Dave F.




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CRUSADER

07-24-2005 06:46:54




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-19-2005 08:06:38  
Sir,

I am by no means a electrician, but one of the things I have learned through trial and error is that them flourescent lights require a good ground. I had to replace one a year or so ago at my lady's shop that the manager had replaced less than a year before that was always giving her problems and couldn't keep light bulbs for any time at all. I found that the grounds were of less than desirable condition/connection. We put in new fixtures...same brand from same store. There have been no problems at all with the lights.

Like I stated, I am in no way considered an electrician, but if the grounds are not good, for some reason it'll shorten the life of the bulbs and knock out the ballast quickly.

Jim

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RayP(MI)

07-20-2005 18:54:03




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-19-2005 08:06:38  
Donno, but I'm tired of having the 48 inch dual 40 watt shop lites failing after a short lifetime, sometimes a few hours over a few weeks, or a few weeks of 14 hours on daily. One of my electrical buddies tried to repair some, found a blown capacitor in each, unlabeled, unknown rating. We use a number of these lights in our rabbit barn, on a timer - on all day. Others in basement craft shop, on ocassionally.

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Dave F.

07-20-2005 05:16:43




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-19-2005 08:06:38  
This problem seems to only happen when its real humid outside doesn't always do it to all of the lites, I know in cold weather the bulbs just kinda flicker intill the room or lites warm up. Thanks Dave F.



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T_Bone

07-20-2005 16:08:57




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-20-2005 05:16:43  
Hi Dave,

I would put a voltmeter on the line and read voltage as the switch is closed. At that instant you will most likey see low voltage input to the ballast indicating high resistance in the circuit.

T_Bone



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txgrn

07-20-2005 04:55:01




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-19-2005 08:06:38  
2 things:

1. Usually you have problems in the winter and have to have a special bulb to to operate below 50F.

2. Some hanging lights have a warning that they are not designed to be flush mounted.....have to hang below the ceiling. Ok that means that something in there will overheat. Ok so insulation melts and if the wire is touching the case or something else it shorts out and blows the breaker.

Other than that I can't imagine what would cause you a problem in summer.

Mark

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Kevin Bismark

07-19-2005 17:16:45




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-19-2005 08:06:38  
If you are sure you have the right bulbs for the ballasts you have, have you considered a loose connection some place, are they all fed out of the same panle, maybe a lug that is a little loose on a hot day?? Just a thought.



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Bob

07-19-2005 10:41:48




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Dave F., 07-19-2005 08:06:38  
Is your wiring up to code, in that the metal fixtures are properly grounded?

Several types of flourescent bulbs are spec'd to "be mounted within 1/2" of a grounded metal reflector", and having a proper ground to the fixture often DOES affect how well they "start".



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Dave F.

07-19-2005 12:10:25




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 Re: O.T. Flouresent lites in reply to Bob, 07-19-2005 10:41:48  
Yep there grounded. little pig tail from fixture to junction box to bare ground wire from the source/ power cable. has ground test meter from hot/blk wire to ground 120volt.



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