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easom

07-14-2005 16:09:53




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here goes again..tried to post this once before....I've been told by air tool repair shops that almost any 10 wt oil can be used..also was told atf (automatic trans fluid) was good for oiling air tools, and lastly, that you should run an ounce or two of solvent (kerosene, diesel, etc) thru tool every once in a while to clean it. thoughts on these? thanks




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Robert in W. Mi.

07-19-2005 15:19:33




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
I have a quart of "Marvel air tool" oil sitting by my air tools. I put a few drops in the air inlet of every tool i use once a day, and i've been doing that for many years.

My tools are holding up well, and seem to still have good power.

Robert



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easom

07-20-2005 15:16:43




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 07-19-2005 15:19:33  
thanks for all the replies....ain't this interesting stuff?



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Big Jim

07-18-2005 23:14:07




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
ATF for me because I always have it around. Also, when I wash my stuff off in the parts washer, I often let some solvent run into the coupler.. I then hook up an air line and blow the solvent through the tool. A little more ATF and I"m good to go.



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Bud in NC

07-16-2005 01:11:19




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
I used Marvel Mystery oil in my air tools - I noticed it has a slight Oil of Wintergreen smell to it. Oil of Wintergreen is one of the things we used to use by the case as a penetrant on turbine bolting.



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etshobby

07-15-2005 07:19:55




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
I have been an warehouse industrial tool company handling over 1500 brand names and not one of the manufactures that I supplied too has turned down a warranty because of oil. I will say though from all repairs and warranties our shop people did the two biggest problems was no oil and also to heavy of an oil or over done. The air oil is inexpensive use only two or three drops at most oil can be sewing machine oil but becareful of those that lubricate and clean {rust remover they also after running make the oil disappear and you can burn or make a heavy wear area almost like a hot spot. The failure most fialures occur where the valve reed or disc this allows to crack or not seat if too heavy and too light allows to slap and indent reed or disc prematurely. I would recommend just disassemble every so often clean with rubbing alcahol wipe disc clean no cleaner dont scratch and reassemble with a air oil or this type on the cyclinder wall. Moisture causes a lot of most troubles use a moisture trap and drain tank you wont have the problems moisture takes any oil away too soon. and when tool sits also causes cyclinder problems and sticky disc.Some shops use there solvent cleaning tanks bad dirty solvents have ruined more tools then I care too mention but keeps us busy fixing and charging.

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lucasss

07-15-2005 05:05:50




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  

having been doin mechanic work and machine work since 1972 , i have to say that i havnt been oiling my air tools since about 1980. when i oiled them in the 70's they would only last a year or two. now they last 20+ years without oil. lucas



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3010 Ken

07-15-2005 04:02:40




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
Morning Easom;We run over 200 pneumatic tools of one type or other here at work.We use Marvel by the cases and a lot of these tools haveat least 10 years on them, some up to 20 years.I do all the maintenance and repairs on them in my shop.I like to give the shop tools a squirt of WD-40 now and then to cut the sludge build up.Then it's back to the Marvel Mystery Oil. Kenny



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NC Wayne

07-14-2005 21:05:23




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
Since Dad and I both work on equipment for a living we use our air tools every day. We have always used either Marvel Mystery Oil or the PB Blaster air tool oil/conditioner. A few drops of either and you'd be suprised what a difference it'll make. Ntime you try to get a bolt out with your impact and it doesn't move right off give the tool a little extra oil and try it again. Often the extra sealing effect of the oil film on the vanes will give it just enough extra to break the bolt free. Just remember when you oil an air tool that in many cases your both sealing the vanes and lubricating the bearings, which in some tools are turning in the 20,000 RPM range. This is one reason I never use WD-40. While it may lube the vanes to a degree it simply isn't designed to provide a proper oil film on any bearings that may be relying on the oil for their lubrication...and when their turning at 20,000 RPM it isn't gonna be long before they stop or get badly worn. Again though we use our tools everyday so a tool that only gets occasional use isn't gonna suffer as bad as the ones we use would. Just my .02

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XXXRogerXXX

07-14-2005 18:13:32




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
Solvent is a good idea when new, since many companies put an oily preservative throught the tools before shipping. All I ever used was ATF. Killfrost is the best stuff I've ever used to keep air tools working during the winter months on tire trucks. I think Keystone makes it, or resells it for Elf petroleum.



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Bernie in MA

07-14-2005 17:57:44




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
Today I used a cheap Altrade die grinder. For years it sat on the shelf because it quit running. A couple years ago I started using Kroil on rusty bolts, etc and the can said it was good for air tools. It certainly is. A few squirts in the air coupler anmd it runs better than when I first got it.



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msb

07-14-2005 17:42:56




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
50 years ago the recommended oil was Marvel's Mystery Oil.Smelled like banana oil.Always made me hungry.LOL,bob



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Charles (in GA)

07-14-2005 18:31:32




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to msb, 07-14-2005 17:42:56  
I'll second the Marvel oil. It has oil in it, for lubrication, plus it has solvents in it for cleaning the tool out. It works well and doesn't harm the tools. We use this at work exclusively and never have a minutes problem.

Charles



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Redmud

07-14-2005 16:39:50




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to easom, 07-14-2005 16:09:53  
I have air tools that are over 30 years old, and only use motor oil to lube them, the weight of the oil was never given a thought. And I have never ran solvent of any kind thru them. I have bought air tools that didn't last very long, but chalked it up to what I paid for them.



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RustyFarmall

07-14-2005 17:38:20




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to Redmud, 07-14-2005 16:39:50  
Redmud, that's pretty much the way I've been doing it with the exception that occasionally I will squirt some WD-40 in the tool. I have a bit of a problem with moisture in my airlines, and after using a tool on a humid day I think the WD-40 helps to get rid of the accumulation.



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MPK

07-15-2005 19:17:42




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 Re: air tool oil in reply to RustyFarmall, 07-14-2005 17:38:20  
All I ever use is ATF. I was told by someone in a car dealership shop that ATF is all they ever use and it cleans at the same time.



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