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Dug

06-28-2005 21:31:20




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Saw a little snake that I can not seem to identify and you guys seem to know it all! It had a very rich, red stripe about half inch, then a narrow black stripe, narrow white stripe, narrow black stripe and back to the red stripe.

Any thoughts on type?

Dug




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Galen

06-29-2005 04:29:36




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 21:31:20  
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Dug - It's probably a Milk Snake. At first glance, they look identical to a Coral Snake. If ya get a long enough look at them both, the Coral has a black nose, the Milk don't. Coral is posionous, Milk ain't. Milks and Kings are realitives. Don't think you'd see a Coral in Kansas, unless he was dumped by somebody.

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2x4

07-04-2005 20:58:08




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Galen, 06-29-2005 04:29:36  
red touches yellow, kill a fellow; red touches black, friend of Jack. This is a non-poisonous False Coral Snake



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Dug

06-29-2005 08:03:53




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Galen, 06-29-2005 04:29:36  
Galen,

That picture is it! Milk snake? Never heard of them and I grew up in this area.

Killed my 14th Copperhead last night. We have plenty of em around. My 7 year old stepped on it in the driveay last night at dusk. Lucky he wasn't bitten. Praise the Lord for Gaurdian Angels!

Dug



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tompepper

06-29-2005 04:04:33




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 21:31:20  

Now the Pennsylvania hoop snake is something to be reckoned with. It is long, and its colors vary with the type of whisky you"ve been drinking. But everyone agrees that you can tell a hoop snake from a regular snake by the way it moves. When a hoop snake travels around, it grabs its tail (with the poison stinger at the end) in its mouth and rolls along until it sees something it wants to sting. Then it whips the stinger out of its mouth quick enough and lashes out with its tail.

One feller I knew, he was hoeing in his field when a hoop snake came rolling towards him. He ducked behind his hoe, figuring he was a goner, but the snake"s tail hit the hoe instead of him, and there it stuck. Well, he just high-tailed it out of there right quick and headed for home. He knew he had to to wait until dusk to get his hoe. Hoop snakes what get into fights never die before sundown. Sure enough, he went back after sundown, and that hoop snake was as dead as your average doornail. The handle of the hoe was so swollen up with poison that the farmer had it cut up and shingled his barn with it. "Course, I happen to know that they all fell off after the first big storm because the rain washed the poison right out of them. But you can"t blame a feller for trying.

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nc140man

06-29-2005 02:47:29




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 21:31:20  
Red and yellow, kill a fellow, red&black, friend of Jack! Coral snake has red and yellow stripes next to each other, scarlet king snake red followed by black stripe. Fools a lot of people, please do not harm the king snake. Even coral snakes are very rare and illegal to harm or disturb. Plus would be unlikly you would find a coral snake in k.c.. More common in my neck of the woods, coastal carolina! Later! Scott

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ShepFL

06-29-2005 06:22:27




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 That's what I tell my Hunter Ed students!! in reply to nc140man, 06-29-2005 02:47:29  
One of my other passions is Hunter Ed to ensure the survival of our species. Wildlife ID is one of the parts the kids get a kick out of.

See link below that is specific to FL but is good reference material for the Southeast.



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Fawteen

06-29-2005 02:03:42




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 21:31:20  
Fur as I'm concerned, they ain't but two kinds of snakes: Live snakes, and Good snakes...



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Slowpoke

06-28-2005 23:23:00




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 21:31:20  
A North Carolina coral snake has wide red and black bands with a yellow stripe between bands. Doesn't sound like your snake. Go to Google and type in Coral Snake or other kind that it could be.
#10 is a real good picture of a Western Coral.



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old

06-28-2005 22:35:13




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 21:31:20  
Could be one of 2 a coral snake or a striped king snake. Where are you as that would be what might make a differance as to what it is



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Dug

06-28-2005 23:55:02




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to old, 06-28-2005 22:35:13  
I live 40 miles west of KC.

Dug



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old

06-29-2005 08:04:51




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 23:55:02  
In that area it could be either one but it is more likely to be a banded king snake, which is one you want around because they eat the snakes you don't want around.



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DaveInMI

06-29-2005 03:31:52




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-28-2005 23:55:02  
I grew up 40 mi west of KC, DG-JO county line, farmed in Kaw Valley. Where are you located?



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Jimmy King

06-29-2005 08:29:31




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to DaveInMI, 06-29-2005 03:31:52  
Spent 3 1/2 mons. just south of the Caw in 1960 Marshal Field, Ft Rilley, Ks. About 100ft south.



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Dug

06-29-2005 08:00:59




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to DaveInMI, 06-29-2005 03:31:52  
Hi Dave,

I live 8 miles south of Lawrence in Vinland Valley. Good farmland along the Kaw. There are turf farms all over that area now. Growing grass for the yuppies!

Dug



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DaveInMI

06-30-2005 04:13:54




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 Re: OT-Snake ID in reply to Dug, 06-29-2005 08:00:59  
Know the area fairly well. Flew in and out of Vinland many times. Brother had his plane there for a while this year. My sister-in-law has family there. Thanks for the connection. Never heard of a coral snake in the area.



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