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Free-standing fuel tank

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Gus

06-15-2005 02:47:25




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Have been given a gas tank on a stand free for the taking. I want my own off road diesel supply. The tank has been empty for 15 years at least. If it has been capped correctly, I put a new hose and filter on it, what can go wrong? Oh and paint it green and stickers. The local fuel supplier doesn"t provide tanks anymore and I don"t need one bad enough to justify a new one. I think I remember a similiar post about this but don"t remember if it was even on this forum. Thanks, Gus.

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john in la

06-16-2005 20:16:13




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
The color of the tank is nothing to the fire department. The delivery man needs a color if you have more than one tank so he knows what product goes in what tank.

The fire department is going to be looking for placards on all 4 sides. It needs to be a flammable placard with the #'s 1993 in the middle for diesel. 1203 placards are more common but they are for gas.

A concrete slab with cinder block walls high enough to contain all product in the event of a spill is a very good idea if it is not a law in your state.

Since it will be for diesel most states do not require vapor recovery so you can vent the tank.

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Don-Wi

06-16-2005 07:19:22




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
I think diesel tanks have to be either green or gold, helps the firefighters know what"s in there as gas and diesel have 2 very different reactions. Our gas tank is silver and diesel is gold on our farm. Otherwise red or green.
Donovan from Wisconsin



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Gus

06-15-2005 15:32:31




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
Wasn"t aware of any state/fed regulations but I will sure check that out first. Planned on checking for leaks, new fittings, hose, nozzle. I did assume it had to be green only because the ones I see all over are red-gas, green-diesel. I"ll check that too. If I drag it home then find out it leaks, I guess I"ll have a new elevated burning barrel or air-mail mailbox for big packages. Thanks for the ideas. Gus

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Nolan

06-15-2005 11:26:10




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
Carefull, this *is* a time to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Regulations. Does your area have any governing those tanks. Probably not, since it's diesel, but it's worth checking before you get an unpleasant surprise.

Insurance & fire. Having special fees from your insurance company or the fire department for having a fuel tank on your place is not unheard of. You might want to check on this as well.

Environment & disposal. If this tank is a leaker, and you fill it up with fuel... Well, we all know how this can go, especially if the folks you hire to clean up the mess contact your state EPA types.

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paul

06-15-2005 14:39:08




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Nolan, 06-15-2005 11:26:10  
You have some good points. We are _very_ close to having national laws requiring containment structure under these tanks. If there never was a fuel tank on the location you are going to place this, I'd sure think about it. Cleaning up a 25 gallon 'spill' can run several thousands these days, doing it the EPA way.

Otherwise, the old tank should be fine. They gather water along the very bottom inside, that is what will show damage/ leakage first. Pinhole stuff. Shine a light in if you can, examine the bottom well. As well as the fittings of course.

Should work fine for you.

--->Paul

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Bobcatz

06-15-2005 10:57:05




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
Place tank in shaded area, paint silver or al. to keep evaporation at min.
When U first have it filled, only a few gal to check 4 leaks.



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RayP(MI)

06-15-2005 06:20:06




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
I'd fill it with water first, to see if it has any "suprise" leaks. After it passes several days with that, then I'd dry it out as best as I could, rinse with diesel, replace potentially leaky hardware, new filter and hose..... ..



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Mike M

06-15-2005 05:03:25




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
Your actually better off painting it a color that reflects the heat to keep it cool.White or aluminum ?



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Galen

06-15-2005 04:48:06




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
Yup - you should be ok. Might want to flush it out with a little Diesel first - just to get dust and "critters" out for sure. It'll be ok until you paint it green - then it will rust out and leak. 8^)



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RustyFarmall

06-15-2005 04:44:25




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 Re: Free-standing fuel tank in reply to Gus, 06-15-2005 02:47:25  
The tank is probably OK, but I wouldn't put more than a few gallons in it until you know if it leaks or not. Also, I don't think it will ever function properly if you paint it green, it needs to be IH red. LOL (:



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