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Carbon Flame Torch

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Nik

06-14-2005 20:46:31




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How do carbon flame torches work. My small welder says that it can "carbon flame torch" on it. The little picture shows both cables with sticks on them. How does it work and how do you do it?




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T_Bone

06-16-2005 05:15:44




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 Re: Carbon Flame Torch in reply to Nik, 06-14-2005 20:46:31  
Hi Nik,

I couldn't find a thing on carbon flame torchs in any of my older books, back to the 40's and 50's. I personally have never heard of the term carbon flame torch. With your machine at 50a I think what there refering too is carbon arc welding and that I have experience with.

Carbon arc is where you use DCEN for the copper clad carbon electrode. You peal back the cooper, then sharpen the carbon to a fine point then snap off the point with your thumb. You then use a silicon bronze filler rod on the metal, stick the carbon electrode on top of the filler rod until the carbon becomes cheery red, then slightly lift the carbon from filler rod and begin welding. This welding process works well for seal welding SM. About 33kpsi tensil strength.

A second welding process is a spot welding method. You use a copper clad carbon electrodes in both the ground clamp and normal electrode holder. I've never used this process but it doesn't look like a good process as you need to break current and most likely will break the electrode when trying pull away. If not then it wouldn't spot weld.

Another process method called air-arc cutting uses a copper clad carbon electrode in a specical electrode holder with a air jet. Again you stick the carbon to the metal to be cut letting the carbon rod heat, then pull off the base metal slightly at the same time applying air pressure. The carbon pre-heats the base metal to be cut and the air removes the molten metal. This cutting process is very common for back gouging welds so another weld can be made on thick plate.

If someone else can enlighten me to another process with carbon electrodes I'm always willing to learn.

T_Bone

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lucasss

06-15-2005 19:30:27




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 Re: Carbon Flame Torch in reply to Nik, 06-14-2005 20:46:31  

they are nice to have around ,especially if you run out of ox-acy. talk about heat!! lucas



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sonny2

06-15-2005 04:35:27




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 Re: Carbon Flame Torch in reply to Nik, 06-14-2005 20:46:31  
Nik
I got one of those carbon arc torches from a friend. I did some brazing with it, but I didn't think too much of it. I went out and got an ace-oxy set. One rod is fixed and the other pivots. You bring the two together until an arc is established and then use it as a torch.



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old

06-14-2005 20:58:24




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 Re: Carbon Flame Torch in reply to Nik, 06-14-2005 20:46:31  
Thats old teck stuff, haven't used one in 30 plus years. Was suppose to be able to braze etc with it but never had much luck doing so. The one I had came with a lincoln welder I got from a magazine ad, cost me $19.95 and that was back when I was around 16 years old. That welder was a piece of junk but I did learn to weld with it.



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Nik

06-15-2005 05:16:51




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 Re: Carbon Flame Torch in reply to old, 06-14-2005 20:58:24  
That sounds about right. The welder that I have is a fixed 50 amp, it has one switch, on and off. Seems like a torch would work better and be easier anyway. Thanks for the info.



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