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OT:RV Slide out tech question

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Redd

05-28-2005 17:17:55




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Can someone direct me to a forum like this for Fifth wheels and RV's? I go to RV.net a lot but can't get a question answered. I need to get at the two rollers that my slide out rides on. Its just too close to the floor and I'm snowplowing the carpeting right off the floor. This my first slide out. The folks at RV.net that did respond didn't even know there were rollers under there. I found them doing an "exploratory". The rollers are in little boxes and need to be shimmed up, but they wer put in before the slide. I've tackled bigger jobs and I'm not against paying a pro, just wondered if anyone else did this or can direct me to a site.

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Weirsdale George

05-29-2005 23:30:59




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Redd, 05-28-2005 17:17:55  
If you can't raise the roller, can you lift up the slide out and install a, say, 1/4" thick aluminum strip on the surface that sits on the roller.



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Redd

05-30-2005 05:05:05




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Weirsdale George, 05-29-2005 23:30:59  
That thought did cross my mind. The only thing is, it goes over a squeegee like strip while going in and out and anything that disrupts the smooth surface of the bottom will create a place that the seal has to go around.



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DAN 05

05-29-2005 10:53:18




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 Steering coloumn Static Hydro Knob Postion A,B,C,D in reply to Redd, 05-28-2005 17:17:55  
WHat do the four positions on the knob stand for. And why is it hooked up into the steering coloumn. Reason for question being I currently have no Hydraulic steering. Also would like info on the other positions of this particular knob. The tractor is a 3444,1974.Bucket Backhoe. Thank You.



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Tony C.

05-29-2005 10:48:48




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Redd, 05-28-2005 17:17:55  
Try posting a topic on Google Groups rec . outdoors . rv-travel.
There is a lot of bs there but also quite a few knowledgeable posters who can help you. Give them the make/model/year of what you have.



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T_Bone

05-29-2005 08:01:05




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Redd, 05-28-2005 17:17:55  
Hi Redd,

I think your wanting something from RV.net that the average RV.net user knows nothing about. A typical RV.net user is wanting to know how to figure how much there truck can carry/pull and with 90% being retired with money, so they take there repairs to the dealers.

On this forum the guys/gals here are most likely still have a little grease under there finger nails as they type your response to your questions.

Just too different types of forums. Nothing wrong with either of them.

I talk on both forums and although I could get your job repaired, I personally have never worked on slide out rollers, so I won't make a comment on this forum or on the RV.net forums as someone will answer your questions that's been there and done that with good experience.

Just my thoughts.

T_Bone

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Michael_E_Tx

05-29-2005 06:33:32




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Redd, 05-28-2005 17:17:55  
Hi Redd. Sorry to hear you haven't had any luck with answers on the Open Roads forums. Slide mechanisms are a pain in the tush.

I had to disassemble the gear unit on the slide motor to grease it on our Sunnybrook. The rollers were nearly froze up as well and had to be cleaned and greased.

We are currently working on my son's Fleetwood Prowler, which has a roller that has split. It too was installed before the slide mechanism was put in place in the trailer. We'll have to use a hole cutter on some sheet metal in order to remove the bolt that serves as the axle for this roller.

I'm assuming this is a used 5th wheel or you'd be taking it back to the dealer and saying fix this. What kind of trailer is it? Has the slide mechanism ever worked properly?

I'm not doubting your "exploratory", but every slide mechanism I've looked at has several more rollers than two. At least six. Upper and lower on the inside end and lower on the outside end. If at any point, someone replaced the outer rollers with ones of larger diameter, you might get the phenomena you are describing.

Also, every slide mechanism I've seen has some means of adjustment at the outside end between the slide rails and the actual slide. This is for alignment purposes. If someone has gone overboard adjusting the slide up, you would also get the phenomena you describe. If your rollers are all intact, you ought to be able to adjust the outside of the slide down some to achieve some relief from your carpet plowing

My last suggestion would be to make friends with a pro. Offer to pay for some advice. Do your homework. If your rollers are in little boxes, do whatever you have to, to be able to say with certainty that the rollers are intact and freely rolling. Personally, I doubt shimming the rollers you describe is the answer, but it may be. If this is a common problem with your unit, a pro is likely to have run into it and have a fix.

Michael

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Redd

05-29-2005 10:17:37




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Michael_E_Tx, 05-29-2005 06:33:32  
Thanks for the input. I didn't look up above or at the sides but these two rollers are at the outside wall of the trailer and would actually be the ones that hold the inside or house side of the slide up. Its a 99 Wildwood and judging by the cond. of the carpet its been dragging since new. I jacked up the slide and can just get my fingers in to spin the rollers they are good ball bearing, and spin freely. They are in metal boxes screwed to the floor and raising them just 3/8 or so would do it. I tried the outside adj screws down and up etc. To get what I need the outside would have to be 1 1/2 lower than the rest of the trailer. Its a shame theres not a screw on these rollers. Its made by Forest River?, I thought maybe someone who had the same repair/problem might be here. What does it take to get the slide out of the unit completely? I'm not against having it done just wondered how they do it.

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Michael_E_Tx

06-01-2005 18:45:58




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Redd, 05-29-2005 10:17:37  
Redd, the two rollers you are describing are the ones I referred to as the outer ones. The others are underneath the trailer. The ones you see are like the fulcrum for a lever. Your slide rails extend under the trailer about as far as they extend out with the slide out. The weight of your slide is held by the rollers you see and the upper rollers underneath the trailer near the other end of the slide rails.

The larger part of your slide mechanism, which is under the trailer, might not be visible because it may be covered by a membrane or some type of hard sheeting. It would probably be worthwhile for you to remove whatever is in the way and see what's under there.

I would guess that most manufacturers pre-assemble the slide mechanism and then add it to the trailer frame as a unit. If there was any misalignment when your trailer was assembled, this could be the source of your problem. Some I've seen are bolted and some welded, but either way you'd still know what needs to be done.

As far as getting the slide out of the unit, I've wondered the same thing, since it seem you would at least have to extend the slide further out to replace the carpet. I think it mostly involves removing the face boards that seal the slide when it's out. Ours are upholstered, looks like a difficult job to me.

I was looking on the Forest River site and noticed that they said the company was started in 1996. That means your trailer was built in just the third year of production. It might pay off to call the service dept. of a Forest River dealer and ask if they've ever had a service bulletin about your problem. Could be this is a known early production problem, and one for which they have a fix.

Well, that's all the thoughts I have for you. As someone once said, "Now I've told you more than I know." hehehe. Good luck.

Michael

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Hermit

05-28-2005 18:07:28




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 Re: OT:RV Slide out tech question in reply to Redd, 05-28-2005 17:17:55  
Here's a link that might be helpful. It contains an article concerning a problem similar to yours and what they discovered.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3707/is_200306/ai_n9296519



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