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Front tine tiller belt - size?

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Tim in New York

05-15-2005 15:24:27




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The drive belt on my old Gardenmaster 3.5 tiller disintegrated this weekend. I tried to match up what was left of it at the local Agway - brought home a 1/2 X 31 belt. 1/2" was the smallest they had. I promptly shredded the new belt - probably too wide.
So - anybody have an idea what size belt I need? Its a pretty simple tiller - lawnmower engine that bolts to a platform - horizontal belt connects the pulley on the spindle, through a tightener, to a pulley that connects to the tines via a vertical shaft. My neighbor gave it to me - and he bought it for $10 at a garage sale. I"ve used it for several years without any trouble. So - no owners manual or anything.

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Tim in NY

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T_Bone

05-16-2005 03:35:26




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 Re: Front tine tiller belt - size? in reply to Tim in New York, 05-15-2005 15:24:27  
Hi Tim,

They make V-belts in standard sizes;
3L series= 3/8" wide
4L series= 1/2" wide
A Section= 1/2" wide x 5/16"thick
B Section or 5L Series = 21/32" x 11/32" thick

Belt length:
3L300 is 30" long
4L310 is 31" long

A section belts are 2" longer than the belt number, A30= 32" long, A42= 44" long

B section belts are 3" longer than the belt number, B30= 33", B45= 48" long but once you get to B35 then the 5L series starts with the common numbering scheme, 5L380= 38" long belt, however the B Section numbering system remains as stated.

3L and 4L Series belts are rated for fractional HP applications.

A & B Section and 5L Series belts are rated for industrial use or in larger HP applications.

A Section belts can be used for 4L belt applications but 4L Series can NOT be used for A Section belt applications as A Section belts are a heavier rated belt.

Cogged V-belts are used for better belt grip and cooler running. In some applications, like centrifigal fans, cogged belts can quiten system fan noise or will not viberate as much after sitting for a long time with small diameter sheaves.

Belt color schemes can only be used with-in the same mfg of the belts. As far as I know, belt color schemes have not been used in a very long time and wortless info between different belt mfg's.

To fit a "new" V-belt to a pulley, the top belt width should be "at" or just slightly above the outer pulley diameter on a fixed diameter pulley. If the "new" belt is below the diameter surface then the pulley needs replaced as it's worn out.

A shredded V-belt is caused by bad pulley alignment and or burrs/grooves on the pitch surface of the pulley(s) or contact with a external non-rotating part.

If you had used a 4L Series belt on A-Section application then the belt would have not lasted very long but by no means schredded, so I would be looking for a cause other than wrong belt application.

Auto part stores are a good source for A-Section V-belts.

T_Bone

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MAC,IL

05-15-2005 16:05:44




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 Re: Front tine tiller belt - size? in reply to Tim in New York, 05-15-2005 15:24:27  
Off hand I would say a 3/8 X 30 is what you need. Measure pully width, 1/2" was probably to wide.
About any mower shop would let you try them on for size, if you can get the tiller to the door.



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RustyFarmall

05-15-2005 16:16:43




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 Re: Front tine tiller belt - size? in reply to MAC,IL, 05-15-2005 16:05:44  
Also, make sure you get a belt rated for that application, if I remember correctly, it will have sort of a greenish tint to it. The belt you bought was probably a fractional horsepower rated belt, for electric motor applications. I learned it the hardway.



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Tim in New York

05-15-2005 16:30:18




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 Re: Front tine tiller belt - size? in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-15-2005 16:16:43  
Thanks guys - I think you both are right. The mower shop was closed (Sunday), but the girl at the register showed me a selection of belts in the back of the feed/hardware section. I bet they were for electrical applications as MAC noted. 1/2" was the smallest they had, so I grabbed one. Probably the smaller widths were locked up across the street in the mower shop. Guess I'll give it another try. Thanks for the quick response. Tim

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Missouri Boy

05-15-2005 17:13:23




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 Re: Front tine tiller belt - size? in reply to Tim in New York, 05-15-2005 16:30:18  
I think it was just too weak of a belt. I never saw anything smaller than a half used on a tiller. It should almost fill the pulley and I bet it did.



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Leland

05-15-2005 21:03:41




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 Re: Front tine tiller belt - size? in reply to Missouri Boy, 05-15-2005 17:13:23  
a lot of tillers use 3/8s belts get the ones that say power rated gates are green and somebody else has them in blue.



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