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Damper on a Wood Stove

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Tyler (MD)

01-10-2001 16:31:53




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Should I and could I have a damper on this stove? My wood burns up pretty quick.

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If so, how far away from the stove should the damper be placed into the pipe? I currently don't have much space between the back of the stove and the plate to the fireplace.

Thanks for any advise!

Tyman

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Paul

01-13-2001 10:07:27




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 Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-10-2001 16:31:53  
I agree with the hazards mentioned by the other guys, but I respectfully disagree with some of the damper comments. I've lived with wood heat for most of my 50+ years, and I have found that a stovepipe damper will produce more heat from a woodstove. Dampers are cheap and easy to install, so why don't you try one? Open the pipe damper and your intake draft. Get a good fire going, and then slowly close the pipe damper until the stove threatens to smoke into the room, then open it slightly. At that point you are allowing the stove all the exhaust that it needs while holding some of the heat from escaping up the chimney. You should find that the water in an open pan, where that kettle is sitting, will get hotter with the proper use of the pipe damper, that it will with the damper full open. Please, before you try this, address the concerns mentioned in all of the other posts. With the setup that you are using, you really don't want your stove to get hotter. I would also check the seal around what appears in the picture to be the face of an old fireplace. In the event of a chimney fire, you MUST be able to close off all possible sources of air intake to the chimney. The ONLY source of air for the whole system should be your intake draft, and it should be possible to seal it tightly in an emergency. Another place that is often overlooked is the chimney cleanout door. It MUST seal tightly when closed. Sorry for rambling - these things will sneak up on you while your family is asleep. . .

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kip

11-16-2003 06:04:15




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 Re: Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Paul, 01-13-2001 10:07:27  
could i take a second of your time i have a air tight wood stove with brick on bottom and sides two dials in the front a selkirc insulated chimney and just installed it to my garage its a steel building with the front and back walls insulated but not the sides or roof was thinking about puting in a damper the stove has a plate accross the top so its not direct out. want to get the most heat as possible from stove im new at this and am very cautious with this stove cause never had one before i always close the dials in the front when i leave the garage so i was wondering if a damper would give me alittle more heat if it was only opened half way instead of fully would really like your input if you don't mind ill awit your answer thanks again for your time


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Scott Green

01-13-2001 16:41:52




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 Re: Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Paul, 01-13-2001 10:07:27  
Hi Paul , The way you described how to operate a wood stove is exactly right. That is exactly how we would run ours. However , the newer stoves are not run like that. In the operators manual , they will tell you not to install any damper. I installed a damper in different stoves any ways , just for safty reasons. I just left them open all the time. I have to addmit , the manufacturers are correct , when it comes to the newer air tight stoves , you don't need to install a damper. You are correct also. That is if you are running one of the so called "barn Burners". I've installed many , many wood stoves over the years. My rule of thumb is: non air tight , I use a damper. Air tight , no damper. There are some acceptions. Mainly how I feel about the set up the people have.

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Shopguy

01-11-2001 03:42:47




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 Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-10-2001 16:31:53  
Lots of good advice guys,also the cord seal around the door are cheap,easy to replace and should be replaced yearly to keep the stove tight.It would be wise to take all the advice on these repliese as well as a frequent chimly inspection & cleaning.
Shopguy



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Scott green

01-10-2001 19:51:42




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 Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-10-2001 16:31:53  
Tyman , As a rule , if you have an air tight stove , you shouldn't need a damper. Control the air flow in the door. For non air tight stoves , you would want a damper. Like 80 Grit says , it looks like you have an air tight door. Thier for , no damper.



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T_Bone

01-10-2001 19:33:07




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 Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-10-2001 16:31:53  
Hi Tyman, you have several items that need to be corrected before a big problem occurs, A Fire!!!

1) The fire board under the stove is inadaquote for your carpet protection. Carpet burns very well in a fire and is a fuel source.

2) The stove pipe doesn't have a slope greater than 45 degrees to the horzontial plane of the stove. Ash will build up inside the pipe being horzontial and could shut off the draft of the exhaust that would cause alot of smoke in the house plus carbon monoxide.

3) From the picture it looks like the stack collar is not is not fire rated, where the pipe goes into the flue. Fire harzard number three and as they say three strikes and your out.

Your wood stove is very small for the amount of space your trying to heat, hence the reason why it smokes thru wood so fast and adding a damper will do nothing more than add fuel to the above fire hazzard.

T_Bone

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80 Grit

01-10-2001 18:11:11




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 Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-10-2001 16:31:53  
You stove door and draft controls appear to fit tight. Therefore, my thoughts are that you can control the air flow. The best use for a damper is to close off the air flow up the chimney once the fire is out. Just realize that it has been cold and that a number of BTUs must be consumed to offset the heat loss and create a comfortable envirnment. I would suggest that you extend the stove pad at the rear of the stove to where the carpet is covered under the stove pipe. Dry wood used in small quantities will extend the life of the woodpile. A lot of heat is wasted in drying wet wood to where it will burn efficiently. Is the fireplace plate vented or are the slots blanked off?

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Alvin

01-10-2001 17:42:17




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 Re: Damper on a Wood Stove in reply to Tyler (MD), 01-10-2001 16:31:53  
I wouldn't sleep too good with that arrangement.



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