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How to cut up old tires???

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PaulCtOH

01-10-2001 06:42:51




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Is there an economical way to cut up old tires?
Would a shear handle tires? Does anyone have a shear capable of doing this?




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RayP

01-13-2001 17:11:10




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 Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to PaulCtOH, 01-10-2001 06:42:51  
In answer to the origional question, how to cut up tires, we have a recycler in this area, and his machine is an overgrown paper shredder. It works on exactly the same principal, intermeshed rollers. Tires go into the top whole, and drop out the bottom onto conveyor in shreds and chunks. His plan is to store them in an open field until the wire rusts away, and then recycle the rubber. He's got a 30 acre field piled twenty plus feet deep. If that ever catches fire, there won't be anyone living in three counties!

He also has a machine that operates on the same principal as an over grown can opener, or a pipe cutter - a sharp roller cutter is put against the tread, and the tire rotated, cutting it in halves like a bagel. I'm told that whole tires thrown in a landfill or buried will float to the surface, unless they are cut in half.

On a practical basis, for an individual, a heavy duty saber saw, or a sawzall with a coarse blade will cut up a few tires in fairly good time.

A WORD OF ADVICE, IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON CUTTING UP THE TIRES SO YOU CAN BURN THEM, DON'T. LEAVE THE BURNING TO THE FACTORIES EQUIPPED WITH PROPER EQUIPMENT TO DO THE JOB SAFELY!

One final word about the tire recycler, most of the used reject tires he gets in from tire dealers are given a cursory visual inspection, and loaded in semi trailers and shipped to used tire dealers, and trailer manufacturers. BEWARE OF USED TIRES!

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Terry Light

08-01-2005 18:21:22




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 Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to RayP, 01-13-2001 17:11:10  
We need to cut a tractor tire to cover an antique tractor steel wheel for use on the street. Any ideas, the sawall is a slow hard job, maybe the only way, any ideas.

Thank-you Terry



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Steve U.S. Alloys

01-10-2001 11:54:12




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 Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to PaulCtOH, 01-10-2001 06:42:51  
Paul, I know you are probably going to do it anyway, but, those guys on the other forum are right. You shouldn't burn tires in your wood stove. Please do reconsider.



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You Got To Be Kidding!!!...T_Bone

01-10-2001 13:28:03




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 Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to Steve U.S. Alloys, 01-10-2001 11:54:12  
Hi Steve, Well needless to say he'll only do it once.

Someone will die because of the toxic fumes.

Once on fire tire rubber can NOT be put out!!! So I would expect the fire will burn so hot his chimney will colaspe from the heat, and I'm talking any type of chimney you can think of, with fire spreading to the entire structure thus leaving him & family without a home IF they make it out ALIVE!!!

His neighbor will call and turn him in because they can't breathe 5 miles away.

The EPA when they show up will take the farm for clean up cost which he has no control of.

You will contaminate the enviroment so bad that ill health will follow for many years to come too anyone trying to live where you once did.

I really don't think this will matter but do I know what I'm talking about. I'm a Certified Indoor Air Quality Engineer Certified and a Memeber of ASHRE, American Society of Heating And Refrigeration Engineers

As a fellow man I sure hope you reconsider your cost saving approch to kill yourself by. Jump off a building as it will be a quick death and you won't suffer but a few seconds.

T_Bone

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Ray,IN

01-10-2001 21:10:06




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 Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to You Got To Be Kidding!!!...T_Bone, 01-10-2001 13:28:03  
Right on! I'm a former fire chief, and I had one (thank goodness only one) tire fire. A hollow filled with old tires (caught?) fire. It took three days to eventually put out the fire. I had the state highway haul dirt in and a dozer cover the tires by approx. two feet. The owner lost the land to the state for expenses, and after he returned from mexico, they arrested him for illegal dumping. Anyway- Three firefighters and me spent a night in the hospital w/ respiratory problems from the fumes. Tire smoke is dangerous!

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sal

08-12-2002 23:24:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to Ray,IN, 01-10-2001 21:10:06  
The best way to use old tires. our community collects old tires, shreads them and uses them as base for playground epquipment.



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ltf in nc

01-10-2001 17:32:22




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 Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to You Got To Be Kidding!!!...T_Bone, 01-10-2001 13:28:03  
Guys, I did not read the post elsewhere so I am at a disadvantage. However, I do have an article on burning tires for home heat that was published in a widely circulated magazine. The apparatus that burns the tires has a setup that burns the exhaust at elevated temperatures and the claim is that it is safe and clean burning. Maybe the man knows something we don"t.



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T_Bone

01-10-2001 20:07:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to ltf in nc, 01-10-2001 17:32:22  
Hi lft, While in therory this method has be designed for about 25yrs as one of my neighbors was the design engineer for this project. As of a couple weeks ago he's still not wealthy. They can't get it passed EPA.

T_Bone



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tommyw

01-10-2001 21:49:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to T_Bone, 01-10-2001 20:07:19  
a cement factory about 3 miles from our farm burns old tires for fuel,my friends dad oversees the project he said they have to burn at 2000+ degrees to burn clean. they produce no smoke and the plant gets inspected by the epa, he said the secret is to add some natural gas into the mix to get them to burn hot enough. it works well but cost millions of dollars to build, dont try this at home>>>>>>>

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Steve U.S. Alloys

01-10-2001 14:01:23




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 Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to You Got To Be Kidding!!!...T_Bone, 01-10-2001 13:28:03  
Hi Ken,
Yea, I agree, there's a lot of reasons not to do it. Probably a couple we can't even dream up. He's gonna do it anyway though you know. His mind is made up.

Wish I had a nickel for every time I gave somebody some good welding advice and they thought to themselves "Aw he's just trying to sell me something" or they didn't listen because they already knew what they wanted to do, right or wrong, safe or unsafe. Steve

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T_Bone

01-11-2001 03:34:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to Steve U.S. Alloys, 01-10-2001 14:01:23  
Hi Steve, How true that is. The best we can do is voice our opinions and hope for the best.

I take it your really not a salesman but your attitude is not what we generally find in business people. It really nice to find someone likes to give out the facts and let the buyers make up there own minds on what or who to buy from. And I also like your website. Alot of great info there. You have some rods I've never heard of. I wish I could of found you 20yrs ago when I needed them on some of the wierd welds I was asked to work magic on!

T_Bone

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Steve U.S. Alloys

01-11-2001 09:18:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to T_Bone, 01-11-2001 03:34:27  
Thanks Ken! You are definitely on my Christmas card list!

You know, I thought about what you said and there's something I have come to realize over the years. First of all, I never thought I would be a rep. It sort of snuck up on me.

I think all of us are salespeople in one way or another. We all sell a skill or a certain knowledge that our employers or customers buy. Machine shops sell knowledge and skill. There are farmers who sell seed in addition to their primary product, some of them even sell for us in the slower periods. Some of us sell our labor. A mechanics product is his knowledge, and so forth.

All sales really amounts to is asking someone to do a reasonable thing at a reasonable time. No matter what your business, if you are honest and genuine, people will come back for your product, quality, or service. It seems that the repeats are what we all depend on. Steve

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Pollack Pete

01-10-2001 09:07:58




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 Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to PaulCtOH, 01-10-2001 06:42:51  
What do you guys do with the tires you're cutting up.Thanks,Pollack Pete



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Trapper

01-10-2001 07:22:44




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 Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to PaulCtOH, 01-10-2001 06:42:51  
I use a sawzall to cut up old tractor tires paul.
When it comes to the steel band in the bead, I use a cutoff wheel or bolt cutters.



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PaulCtOH

01-10-2001 08:10:53




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 Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to Trapper, 01-10-2001 07:22:44  
Thank you for that suggestion. Is there a particular number of teeth per inch on the blade that I should get?



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Trapper

01-10-2001 08:34:10




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 Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to PaulCtOH, 01-10-2001 08:10:53  
I don't remember exactly right now but it's a course blade, maybe 8?
If your going to be cutting steel belted stuff, I'd think you might go with a finer blade tho.



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PaulCtOH

01-10-2001 08:52:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to Trapper, 01-10-2001 08:34:10  
Thanks again for posting. I always wanted a sawzall; but, never thought I could justify it. I'll get a couple of different blades. Paul



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Fred OH

01-11-2001 10:32:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to cut up old tires??? in reply to PaulCtOH, 01-10-2001 08:52:17  
Might as well add mine. The local boneyard owners tell me that in the state of Ohio that a rubber tire can be hauled to the city dump if it is cut in two. They paid thousands of dollars for a machine that has a shear on one end and a hydraulic cylinder on the side. The cylinder pushes the rim out of the tire (probably inflated or deflated), don't know about that, but the shear cutting the tire in two makes it legal to put them in the dump in this state. I used to be a fireman too, and it's pretty rough on the lungs and a dangerous job. I have lots of respect for the fire fighters. Last but not least, what is the definition of smoke? It is incomplete combustion. L8R----Fred OH

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