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A sawzall question

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Eddie in MI

05-05-2005 10:46:59




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Would you guys rather have:
* A DeWalt 10.5 amp 1 1/4" stroke 0-2800 rpm (DW307MK)

or

* A Milwaukee 10 amp 3/4" stroke 0-2800 rpm? (6509-22)

They are within $10 of each other. To me the DeWalt wins on features, but the research that I have done seems to lean toward the Milwaukee for quality. Which would you choose?




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Kendall

05-17-2005 12:39:09




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
For not too much more money you can get a Milwaukee Super Sawzall (6537-22) that will beat both. The Super Sawzall is couter balanced and runs real smooth, 1 3/4 in stroke, 0-3200 spm, quick lock/release blade. In years to come, you'll forget all about the extra $50 and still have a killer saw. If you can still find a 6537-76 75th anniversary edition, it will be all metal, polished version (which I have and love)

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John K

05-09-2005 15:59:23




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
Although the 1 1/4" stoke gets more blade coverage, I prefer the 3/4" stoke for starting holes or if working in tight spots. If you are working near the end of the blade, there is nothing more anoying the the blade coming coming out of the cut and bending. Go with the RED, there is a reason that Dewalt is yellow. That my oppinion.



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T_Bone

05-06-2005 21:16:23




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
Hi Eddie,

I have a older Makita sawsall that I like real well.

I've always been a Milwaukee fan but this past year Milwaukee sold out and now is foriegn made. Did quality change or going to change?

I've bought several new electirc tools last year. Even tho Makita is now China made, Makita got all of my business and appears to be of the same quality of my 20yr old Makita tools.

Milwaukee designs were just off, ackward designs, for the power tools I bought. I don't see how that could apply to a sawsall but I wouldn't buy it sight unseen.

T_Bone

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Galen

05-06-2005 08:41:27




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
DeWalt. I have both and cuss the Milwaukee every time I use it. The short stroke is VERY annoying and it is low powered. Had no problems with the DeWalt saw, but a couple with the Milwaukee (nothing major), both have great service. Try a side-by-side test - I get tired of waiting for the Milwaukee to catch up, the DeWalt just zips on through. Also have the DeWalt 14.4 cordless (had a Milwaukee).

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WiscTom

05-06-2005 06:13:40




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
Milwaukee.



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Nolan

05-06-2005 04:51:26




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
When comparing them, a couple of things immediately jump out.

Stroke: DeWalt is 1-1/4", Milwaukee is 3/4".

That, all by itself, makes me lean much more towards the DeWalt. A 3/4" stroke wears a small section of the blade quickly, and then you're done cutting until you replace the blade or move the shoe. Counterpoint, you're less likely to bottom the blade against something and bend it. less wear on the actuation mechanism as well, typically.

Shoe: DeWalt is pushbutton adjust, Milwaukee requires tools.

Not a big deal all by itself, but when you consider how often you're going to be changing the shoe position on the Milwaukee because of the short blade stroke in order to wear out a new section of the blade... I also don't like the shoe on the Milwaukee.

Warranty: DeWalt 90 day, 1 year, 3 year. Depends on the part and what happens. Milwaukee, 5 year. Milwaukee has a substantially superior warranty.

Dewalts DW307MK web page:>Link

Milwaukees>Link 6509-22 web page: Link

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Big Jim

05-05-2005 23:48:38




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I"ve had some darned good service out of some DeWalt tools but every inch of me says get the Milwaukee and never look back.



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Van in AR

05-05-2005 21:11:25




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
Upgrade! go with the super sawzall, 1 1/4" stroke, removable cord, and quick change blade. A little more money but if you use it alot you won't be sorry. I've worn out several of the other brands. BTW Milwaukee has some tools made in the far east in thier lineup now also, aint nothing entirely made in the USA anymore.
Van



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Keith-OR

05-05-2005 20:25:49




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I agree with everyone, Milwaukie!! I have two red ones,used one everyday all day for 5 years, still works great. The only thing I will add is make sure you get the one with quick change for the blade and removable power cord.
Keith in Gods country



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hawaiirocky

05-05-2005 19:13:40




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I suggest you go with the red one. I've beat the crap out of my Milwaukee sawzall for over twenty years and it still funtions like new.



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fixerupper

05-05-2005 19:03:32




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
DeWalt is not the good old company it used to be. The quality of their tools went by the wayside after the company changed hands several times. Milwaukee has never lost their high quality.



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Scott Green

05-05-2005 18:02:49




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I'd personally choose the Milwaukee over the dewalt. One other feature to think about is an off-set blade. Skill use to have a recipricating saw with the blade off to one side. I believe it was model 574?? Best recipricating saw I ever had. Made it nice for cutting close to wall , etc.. Very user friendly. I see Bosh has one with blade off to one side.



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wdtom

05-05-2005 17:58:22




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
There may be tools equal to Milwaukee, there may be some better. But you won't regret buying a Milwaukee. From what I have seen they can't be beat. You have a good chance of getting a good tool with them, with another brand you may or may not.



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Ultradog MN

05-05-2005 17:28:25




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
Sawzall is the original Red reciprocating saw from Milwaukee. I"m on my second one. Wore one out. I use and abuse tools every day. I"ve had every color. I don"t buy any yellow ones any more. Their drills wore out the quickest. In 15 years I"ve had 3 of Makita"s cordless drills and a couple of their small angle grinders. I"ll keep buying Makita. I buy cheap circular saws and use them up cutting cement board. Bought a orange Home Depot brand Rigid last time. I sure will try another Rigid tool of one sort or another.
All in all though, most of my power tools are Red. Jerry

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BobinPA

05-05-2005 16:46:25




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I"ve owned a Milwaukee for the past 8yrs with no problems and it does a fine job. I have other DeWalt tools that have done an excellent job. I don"t think you could go wrong with either.



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fepo

05-05-2005 14:27:41




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
One option you must have is the adjustable(slides in and out) shoe, not sure if all the sawzalls are adjustable now adays... but it sure helps to get the most out of your blades.

longer stroke = cuts faster, but will be harder to use in tight corners (tip of blade keeps bashing itself into things you dont want to hit)

short stroke = slower cut, more torque, less likely to hit tip of blade, more precise to use.

forget the amperage, you wont notice it.

go for Milwaukee.

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dr.sportster

05-05-2005 11:41:12




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I realy hate the blade consuming action of a sawzall.That being said I have used and abused the Milwaukee many times and it seems to take the abuse real well.There is no substitute for one to get in on certain cuts.Dewalt Ive not tried but the Porter -Cable is very tough also.Big price variations on the Milwaukee so you have to check several suppliers for the best price.Im talking $30 difference on the same model.Bring plenty of blades for rebar and concrete dust.Put me down as a Milwaukee vote.

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

05-05-2005 11:05:17




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 Re: A sawzall question in reply to Eddie in MI, 05-05-2005 10:46:59  
I would agree with your research. I suppose it'd depend on your intended use... "Production" (i.e. using it in your livelyhood) or "piddling" (my term for hobby/handyman type work). Will you notice that 1/2" difference in the stroke? Maybe. Will it affect what you're doing? Only you can answer that.
Personally, I don't think that you'll see a difference with that .5A...

All said and done, if it were me, I'd probably end up with the Milwaukee...

HTH
Steve

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