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wdtom

04-22-2005 17:53:46




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What do you pay for small quanities of welding rods? Yesterday I needed some rods, was running out, so on the way home from work I stopped at the local shop and bought 10# of 1/8 6013 and 10 # of 1/8 7018. Cost total was $64.96. Haven't bought any for a while, but that seemed high. The actual cost of the rods was 29.06 for the 6013, and 28.97 for the 7018. There was a l.25 "hazardous material charge" and then tax. Hazardous matereal??? What's this??

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kyhayman

04-24-2005 18:51:46




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
Haz Mat on rods is manganese and other potentially toxic metals. Right now a bunch of litigation going on of manganese induced Parkinsons disease. Seems that some of the companies that make rods covered it up back in the 30's that there were health effects associated with manganese exposure. I thought it was a bunch of bull but had to get tested and monitored at work, sure enough, my hair samples came back with elevated manganese, nickel, and cadmium for Dec, Jan, Feb.

As far as prices, I had been paying $69.00 a box for common stuff (its a little on the high side but I like the dealer). Last order (last week, of new stock) was $205 for 100# of 6011's. Then the better news, $217 for 10# of 99% nickel.

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greenbeanman in Kansas

04-23-2005 15:11:58




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
I bought E6011 in two different diameters just last week at Tractor Supply. Normal price, no hazmat cost and they came in a plastic storage box which should help prevent moisture problems in the flux.

I just finished using a certain size of rods from 1965 that were always stored in the cardboard box. No moisture problem until moving from western Kansas to south central Kansas. WK was drier and rods simply don't draw the dampness as they do here.

From Tractor Supply Company current catalog: 10 pounds 1/8th" 6013=$14.98, 10 pounds 1/8th" 7018=$16.33 + tax.

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wdtom

04-23-2005 13:18:15




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
I made a mistake. The Hazmat charge was $3.25, not 1/25 as I had said. Anyway, thanks for all the responses. I guess I didn't get too over charged for the lbs I purchased. I think I will ask about the Hasmat charge though. Thanks again guys.



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dr.sportster

04-23-2005 05:42:28




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
If you buy fifty lbs. at a time and are without a rod oven some of it may get tossed anyhow.If you buy a rod oven your now using electricity to store your rod.Not sure which is cheaper to do.



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Ultradog MN

04-25-2005 15:24:09




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to dr.sportster, 04-23-2005 05:42:28  
Unless you are trying for Xray quality welds which most of us couldn't make anyway, a rod oven is nice but kind of a waste I think. I've had boxes of 7018 sitting on my shelf for years and never had anything break because of moisture/porosity. Think about it: after you have burned off the first inch of that rod the rest of it is already much hotter than a rod oven keeps it.
If I know I am going do a lot of welding I might throw a few pounds into the oven in the kitchen stove for an hour or two. I was certified years ago with Lo Hy and can still make some pretty beads/welds. But there is no way I could weld well enough anymore that a little moisture will make much difference.

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T_Bone

04-25-2005 21:00:00




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to Ultradog MN, 04-25-2005 15:24:09  
Hi Ultradog,

I have to disagree with your assement of 7018. I don't think you can get any dryer than Arizona, typically under 25%rh average, and I still can have a moister problem with 7018, 7014, and 7024 as those electrodes attract moister. This year were running above our average RH and I had to resort to using a rod oven for my 7018.

Although your electrode will heat above 212�, you can not drive off the moister content out of the flux in that amount of "time" while welding. It takes about 2hrs minimum at 250� to lower the moister content to an aceptable level in 7018.

T_Bone

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Doug in IL

04-23-2005 05:23:29




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
Yesterday I bought 10 pounds of Forney 6011's for $13.99 + tax. They had Forney 6013's at 10 pounds for $12.99. Also an off brand of 7014's for $9.99 for 10 pounds. Regular prices, not a sale. At a West Central Illinois Farm King store.



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BFO

04-23-2005 04:49:33




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
$76.20 Cnd. for 44 lbs. Lincoln Excaliber 7018



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T_Bone

04-23-2005 01:18:30




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
Hi Tom,

Not really high in small quanity's. $3/lb is not uncommon. 50# usually sells for about $50.

Have you filled a Acetylene cylinder lately? About $10 haz mat fee on top of the gas price. I was told the electrode Haz fee was Federal mandated for heavy metals in the slag. And how does that work?

One placed I complained, they added the haz fee on the price and when I returned a part that didn't fit, the Haz fee was hand written on the store copy but not on my copy.

Looks like they get it one way or the other.

T_Bone

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Chris Brown

04-22-2005 19:15:03




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
$74.00 per 50lb box for the last two boxes.



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old

04-22-2005 19:02:08




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
I only use 7014 with my AC rig and 7018 with my DC rig, last Time I got some cost was around $10 per 5#



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Hermit

04-22-2005 18:04:37




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
At our local hardware store, $2.25 per pound. You go to a big box of rods and pick up the amount you want. No hazard material charge, just tax.



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Davis In SC

04-22-2005 18:02:47




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to wdtom, 04-22-2005 17:53:46  
Haz Mat fee is a scam, I think... I get it on bills from welding supply places. I scratch it out & pay amount of merchandise only on invoices... Never had them complain.. If it was going to the state or Feds, I think they would enforce paying it. I have a hard enough time getting my customers to pay for Time & materials, so why should I pay a bogus fee???? BTW, I pay all my bills in 30 days. 8^)

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Ol Chief

04-22-2005 20:14:08




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to Davis In SC, 04-22-2005 18:02:47  
It makes me wonder about price gouging.I recently needed some 1/16 " 6010 electrode for use on thin material.Only required a small amount.The local supply house was out of stock soI had to go to Tractor Supply Co.They had what I needed, just two pounds.I have not yet recovered from sticker shock.It cost $5.26 per pound.That comes to $263.oo for 50 pounds.I readily recall buying this rod in 1965 at $10.00 for 50 pounds.I am aware of inflation and the falling dollar,but what makes sense about this outrage. How much can packaging cost.This reminds me of todays shipping and handling charge scam ,where it costs $8.75 to place an item in an envelope and mail it with only a $ 1.15 postal cost.

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Joe in Minnie

04-23-2005 10:09:25




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 Re: Cost of welding rods in reply to Ol Chief, 04-22-2005 20:14:08  
You sure are right on, I watch the scam on "Handling Fee" I tell those like Granger, if your charging me Handling Fees you can keep yur goods, that would be like going to a Grocery Store and being charged handling fees cause you check you out at the register, Scam all the way..



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