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Jim-IL

04-19-2005 15:35:31




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I left the lights on on my WD tractor for a couple of days. Naturaly the batt is stone cold dead. I put the charger on 6 amps and it kept clicking on for a few seconds and then clicked off. What does this mean? Is my battery toast?




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Davis In SC

04-20-2005 20:48:48




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
I had a similar incident recently, kids or someone turned on the switch on my Skid-Steer. I tried to charge batteries, had no success. Finally gave in, & bought new ones. after I got it back running, I saw it had clocked over 100 hours on the meter. By the way key was not in it, those cheap switches are easy to turn. You are probably best of to replace the battery.....



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T_Bone

04-20-2005 20:03:00




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
Hi Jim,

Whats worked for me is using jumper cables on the battery and letting a charging vehicle charge for about 5 min at low idle then high idle for 10min, then use a 6/10amp charger to final charge.

This seams to rebuild the battery state of charge alot faster and may save the battery. Usually after three times of total discharge, the battery is shot, but sometimes you loose after the first time it goes dead.

T_Bone

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CNKS

04-20-2005 17:38:12




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
I have that problem when the temperature is near freezing-- cheap charger -- if it's cold, remoave the battery and charge in a warm room.



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Don L C

04-20-2005 10:45:48




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
No ,You put just enough charge in the battery t o "click" the starter solonid,but not enough to turn the starter..... .put the charger on for several hours..... ..... ....



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Oliver

04-20-2005 11:38:04




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Don L C, 04-20-2005 10:45:48  
I don't think that is what he is talking about.



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Ludwig

04-20-2005 07:30:21




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
Could have a reversed cell or two. Whats the voltage reading at the battery when the charger is on?
I use a big marine 12v battery to power the block heater on my diesel car in the winter. One time I wasn't paying attention and let it get dragged way down to nearly nothing. Put it on my 10a charger and it clicked and clunked just like you describe all day (110ah battery). If I don't let the battery drag down like I did that one time, usually it only gets a 400w load for 1/2 an hour, it doesn't make any noise at all when it charges.

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Michael_E_Tx

04-20-2005 06:39:09




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
I use a trickle charger in such cases, the kind used for motorcycle batteries, 1-2 amps. Sometimes it has taken 24 hours before a battery run dead will take a charge from a regular charger.



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old_bc

04-19-2005 21:24:10




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
The charger is overloaded by the dead battery. The internal breaker is shutting it off every few seconds. It may eventually put enough charge in the battery to start charging. You may have to charge it with a charger that is not automatic.

old_bc



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Joe (Wa)

04-19-2005 19:52:36




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
Check the water level in the cells.

Joe



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kjm

04-19-2005 19:52:21




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
Jim are you useing a 12v charger on a 6v battery or have the cables reversed?



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Bob

04-19-2005 15:49:13




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
In this case, I'd unhook the battery from the tractor (just to be sure there are no other problems), and then MAKING SURE OF THE POLARITY OF THE CHARGER CONNECTIONS, let it charge overnight at low charge with a simple (non-automatic charger).

Likely, it will come back, but that's not certain.



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Gerald J.

04-19-2005 15:42:24




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Jim-IL, 04-19-2005 15:35:31  
It means your battery is really dead. Charge it with a plain old charger until it gets some voltage, then go back to the automatic charger. Or hook a 50 watt 12 volt lamp (Walmart RV department) in series with your automatic charger for a while.

Gerald J.



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txgrn

04-19-2005 17:50:23




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to Gerald J., 04-19-2005 15:42:24  
That's one, or 2 headlights in series if you want something handy.

Mark



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Jon H

04-20-2005 17:14:26




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 Re: Battery problem in reply to txgrn, 04-19-2005 17:50:23  
The problem with a battery that has been totally discharged for several days,is that they sulfate quickly and never recover to 100% power. Northern tool sells a neat little pulse charger and desulfator combo called the battery MINDer,which if left on the battery for a week or more,will remove the sulfation and allow the battery to have 100% recovery,or very close to it.



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