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Ken in Arkansas

04-12-2005 14:39:04




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Does anyone know if sand has been outlawed for use in sandblasting. If so, what is the best abrasive to use for removing paint and cleaning rusted metal




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bjr23

04-13-2005 07:39:02




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 Re: Blasting abrasive in reply to Ken in Arkansas, 04-12-2005 14:39:04  
I have some small 5' wide implements that I would like to blast. I live on a small 2 acre hobby farm. To blast outside would I need to build somekind of enclosure or just out in the open. It's pretty dry, desert area where I live. What do you guys do with the larger blasting projects that won't fit in a cabinet. My compresser is rated at 15cfm at 90psi and I have probably 100gal air tank. I need to know what kind of gun to get and abrasive to use. Thanks bjr23

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david - OR

04-14-2005 06:51:47




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 Re: Blasting abrasive in reply to bjr23, 04-13-2005 07:39:02  
I blast everything outside, out in the open. I don't try to save the abrasive. (I used ground glass -- Vitro-Grit). There are less problems with vision and breathing hazards if the dust isn't confined. If you don't try to sift and re-use abrasive, the blaster doesn't get clogged.

The size of your compressor tank does not matter for blasting. A 15CFM compressor can handle a 1/8 diameter nozzle.

I use one of those cheap Chinese pressure pots from Northern Tool, Harbor Freight, etc. I believe I have the 5 gallon (90 lb) capacity model. I have a 5HP, 15 CFM compressor myself.

With this size compressor, your rate of progress will be slow. Blasting a 6 foot box blade with a 15 CFM compressor will take at least half a day. You might investigate commercial blasting places if you have a number of big projects.

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Rod (NH)

04-12-2005 20:10:30




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 Re: Blasting abrasive in reply to Ken in Arkansas, 04-12-2005 14:39:04  
Hi Ken,

It has been in some countries. NIOSH (National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health) has recommended in the past that it be illegal here in the US. I don't know if presently is or not. I won't use it either way. I use a slag product called Black Beauty. Much safer. The manufacturer of my blast cabinet (TP Tools) recommmends that sand not be used in it. If you must use sand, make sure you have a positive pressure fresh air respirator. Otherwise, I recommend using a safer product, even at a greater cost. You can read about some of the issues here. I doubt that it would ever become illegal for private, personal use. In any event, if it is not a matter of employment, it's a personal health safety choice that the individual has to make.

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NC Wayne

04-12-2005 19:21:38




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 Re: Blasting abrasive in reply to Ken in Arkansas, 04-12-2005 14:39:04  
I've never heard of the blasting sand being outlawed, if it is it'll make blasting alot more expensive than it can already be. Personally I use either a BX12, BX30 or Black beauty. If it's a heavy steel piece with multiple paint layers and heavy rust then a meduim grade sand, BX12 works great. It removes the material easily without leaving an extremely coarse finish to the metal. If it's lighter sheet metal or there isn't that much paint or rust to remove I usually use the finer sand which is the BX30. In Dad's blast cabinet the best thing we've found is the Black Beauty. It's an extremely aggressive slag based material. It cleans like crazy but it does tend to leave a rougher surface texture just like the coarsser grades of sand do. These are just my preferences based on the kinds of stuff I've blasted in the past. I do know there many types of abrasive media available nowdays from wealnut shells to plastic beads to glass beads to crushed glass. Each one has it's uses depending on the results your looking to achieve. If you want more overall knowledge about all of this call the folks at Blast-it-All, they can tell you alot more about what is available than I ever could. Good luck.

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mike brown

04-14-2005 04:40:53




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 Re: Blasting abrasive in reply to NC Wayne, 04-12-2005 19:21:38  
I use black beauty through a sand attachment on a high pressure washer. It's astonishing how well high pressure water with abrasive cleans off paint and rust, yet no dust cloud. The water knocks it all down.
The attachment screws on the end of the wand. I got mine from Northern Tool about $60



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BerkelUSA

09-05-2005 23:15:31




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 Re: Blasting abrasive in reply to mike brown, 04-14-2005 04:40:53  
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I use black-beauty also, Comes in three grades here.. coarse, fine and ultra fine...

I find that the FINE stuff works perfect and is not too powdery or dense in my home-made sandblasters tank..

I used it on everything like heavy cast-steel spindles and I-beams to paper-thin sheetmetal door panels with great success..

In 6 years I have found out that its not the media that is the problem, Its the blaster your using..

Those "POT" blasters are a can of death when used the wrong way..

So I redesigned the sandblaster as you know it!

Without sounding like a bull in a china closet see the link for my projects below.. OK?

The image is my 1903 plumbers vise, a score on trash day..

Regards
Rob

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