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Davis in SC

04-10-2005 19:34:23




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This Morning , at the flea market, I bought 2 cardboard boxes of tools & junk for 20 dollars. I would guess close to 75 pounds worth. I spent the afternoon picking through the boxes. Came up with over a hundred Craftsman sockets, plus 30 or so of other good brands. That leaves about 50 pounds of import wrenches & sockets, from decent to poor quality. I am going to set up a tool box to accomodate borrowers , the ones that seldom bring tools back, or if they do, usually damaged... I can put all the cheap import tools in it, & keep from losing my good ones. Those cheap ones will also come in handy to grind down or modify for a special job.

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Ioway

04-12-2005 05:31:36




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
If you dont want your tools borrowed or stolen just mark your tool box Harbor Freight tools.



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Johnski

04-11-2005 18:50:37




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Had an old timer as a customer in the power equip shop I worked at in back in the 70's. He must have been pushing 80 but still ran his own sawmill. I was sent over to his place to pick up some chainsaws for service. I got the three saws in the truck and then asked him about another saw sitting by the door. "Leave that one there, that's my lending out saw". He went on to explain that when anyone came around to borrow a saw he would give them that saw. Apparently it hadn't run in years but when it was returned no one ever said a word about it. No one ever fixed it for him either. LOL

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Terry G

04-11-2005 16:39:55




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Take a two dollar yard sale paint gun and one quart of cheap enamel paint. Pour half the paint in the cup on the gun and the other half all over the outside of the gun. Let dry in the sun. Makes a great loaner. Sure I have one you can borrow, but you may have to do a little cleaning on it to get it to work.



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Gus

04-11-2005 15:18:33




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
I saw a sign in a guys shop once that said " I will loan my dog but not my tools. The dog knows his way home"



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MAC,IL

04-11-2005 06:18:33




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Smart thinking. I had a neighbor that was a borrower. He would take a snap-on socket, use a cheater bar and bust it. Bring it back and say "Oh its guearanteed, YOU can just get a new one" Or he would bust one and maybe replace it with some cheapie. I told him "thats all" now he dont speak no more.



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Easy

04-11-2005 05:26:37




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
One department I worked for at Cadillac had all the tools marked :Stolen from Dept. 2203, Cadillac Motor Car Company". Somehow we never had anything come up missing. Easy.



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big jt

04-10-2005 23:16:54




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Sounds like a good idea. I keep some lower quality (see junk) tools around for just this sort of purpose. Actually every tractor and truck has a basic set of the cheaper stuff. Not so bad to lose one of those in the field. I do have a good set (mostly snap on) that sits in the tool chest in the shop and RARELY even goes out the door and never out of my hands.

Nice to have some for modifying to special uses also and not do that to a quality wrench.

As to borrowing and lending have some neighbors that will always bring stuff back broke and battered. Any more I just don't loan them stuff, tell them Ins won't allow or some other BS like that. Have some neighbors who will always bring stuff back as good usually better than when they took it. I try to be one of the latter. This policy allows me to borrow some expensive bits of kit, Bucket truck is one thing that comes to mind.

JM2CW

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Jerry L /AZ

04-10-2005 21:27:35




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
I had a neighbor one time always borrowing tools so one day he wanted to borrow a screwdriver and apair of chanele locks I said ok they are in the black tool box on the porch. ( bunch of old tools rusted up and in a box half full of water) any way, he came back and said boy you dont take very good care of your tools. I told him that those were my loaner tools , my tools are in the shop. never took any tools or even came back. Jer

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Easy

04-10-2005 20:38:36




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Old toolmaker saying in Detroit: " borrow once - buy it twice" If you need to keep borrowing, you need to buy. Easy.



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Son in law

04-12-2005 16:20:43




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Easy, 04-10-2005 20:38:36  
Right on Easy. My farther in law, Detroit toolmaker never learned that lesson. He figures, why should I buy it when I can borrow it. Always talks about being broke too. Now that he is retired lives in a palace and still borrows tools.



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MarkB_MI

04-10-2005 20:20:25




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Should you ever loan out one of those junkers, I guarantee that it will come back. Probably with some comments about how bad it was. Strange, but the guy who never returns your good stuff will always return your junk!



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NC Wayne

04-10-2005 19:55:11




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Just get you one of those signs like Snap-On and others used to make up....."I make my living with my "----" tools, Please don't ask to borrow them". I used to loan stuff out sometimes, but now I have a scary amount of money tied up in the tools on my truck and in the shop, so they don't leave...and if they never leave they can't disappear. Seriously take all the tools you think you might loan out and lay them down and paint them with something like flourescent orange paint so they are almost impossible to lose.... a wild thought I just had....before the paint dries take a small amount of sand and sprinkle on the handles to make them uncomfortable to use...you can be sure they'll not want to keep them or won't come back again and ask to borrow them. I worked at a place once and was the only one with a true box of tools. Everything I had was marked and painted in bright colors and I kept careful track of who had what and that they bought it back. I never lost a tool in the year I spent at the place. I see how some guys out there treat their tools and then hear them complain when they don't have anything to work with or worse bitc- about busting their knuckle because they were using a tool for something it wasn't designed to do..because they lost the right tool...it just doesn't add up to me. In most cases if they have the money to have the equipment then they need to buy their own dam- tools or call me and I'll work on it for them.....Alot of times after they get done I have to anyway, and it would have been so much cheaper if they had left it alone in the first place.....

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pperry

04-11-2005 04:18:53




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to NC Wayne, 04-10-2005 19:55:11  
i worked with a large group of guys that all used the same tools in the same trade. i painted all tools and stuff with HOT pink marker paint. not to many of them asked to use my tools. nost of them where to mocho to be seen using pink tools.



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Davis In SC

04-10-2005 20:39:19




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to NC Wayne, 04-10-2005 19:55:11  
Wayne, I never do loan the serious tools. We share a building with a company that is our biggest customer. Those guys are only concerned with yachts, mansions & expensive sports cars. They will not spend a dollar for anything as mundane as tools. If they need an impact wrench to remove a stubborn bolt, I take mine over, & do the job at shop rate... 1/2 hr minimum charge.Takes longer to print the invoice than the job takes. I love it when they try to fix something to save having me to do it. They bring in a pile of a hundred parts, and need it put back together. What should have been a 4-hour job now takes 20 to sort out, plus an added fee for the aggrevation.....

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thurlow

04-10-2005 19:52:45




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Great idea; one of the "best" things to have to lend is an old chainsaw; doesn't matter whether or not it'll run. Some people will ask to borrow anything..... ..have loaned a chainsaw twice; one fellow climbed about 20 feet into a tree to trim some limbs; fell out and cracked a vertebrate (and didn't do the saw any good). Am suprised he didn't sue me. Second fellow filled the gas tank with bar oil and the oil reservoir with gasoline. Never again.

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Davis In SC

04-10-2005 20:56:05




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to thurlow, 04-10-2005 19:52:45  
Yes, Thurlow, a good lawyer could have made a case out of that... If you had not loaned out the saw, the poor victim would never have needed to climb, so he would not have fallen....I bet a former VP candidate would have taken that case, if he was short of malpractice claims.....



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JoeMN

04-11-2005 16:38:44




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis In SC, 04-10-2005 20:56:05  
Or the current VP could have his Haliburton Co buy the chainsaw and bill the US Taxpayer $118,000,then leave it along a road in Iraq because it's out of bar oil. Just like they're doing with transport equipment.



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Eddie in MI

04-10-2005 19:42:09




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Davis in SC, 04-10-2005 19:34:23  
Old junk gets a new life, eh? Sounds like you're onto something there. I gotta get me to a flea market...



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rustyj14

04-11-2005 20:24:36




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 Re: Tools for lending in reply to Eddie in MI, 04-10-2005 19:42:09  
One place i worked, the boss and the other body man each had very large Snap-on tool boxes full of tools. i had one of those steel roll around things with 2 drawers, and a top open section, where i kept boxes of loose bolts, nuts, etc. It had a tray near the bottom, and i added a drawer from a kitchen cabinet so it would hold more tools. Then a torsion rod from a trunk lid and a lock kept everything safe! One night, thieves broke in and took both big tool boxes, but just pushed mine out of the way! And, the other guys had to borrow my tools until they could get the Snap-on tool man to sell them more tools! They had kidded me about my cheap tool box, but cheap played out good in the end!

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