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naz

04-04-2005 03:31:59




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Hi folks,was wondering what kind of filter is used to get the gell looking sediment out of the finished syrup.I cooked it to 6.5 -7 deg above boil(@sea level)Seems to accumulate after cooling,is this the sugar or butter.I made about 2 gallons on a homemade evaporator,have to boil again today,any help would be appreciated.
Naz




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Nolan

04-05-2005 11:06:59




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
I've not done maple syrup, but I do honey. A disposable paint filter does a dandy job for that.



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Ibby

04-05-2005 02:43:25




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
Hi!

It's called nitre, or sugar sand. Sometimes you get a lot of it, sometimes almost none at all. I've never heard an explanation for why it varies so much from tree to tree, year to year, or even run to run.

Even regulation felt syrup filters don't take all of it out. We pack our personal syrup in glass bottles, and it's quite obvious the amount that gets thru the filters. I picked up some new 1/2" thick felt and boiled it to remove off flavors, and that's what we filter with - twice! We filter once as we draw it off the evaporator, and again into the finishing pan, and STILL we get some nitre in the bottles. It don't hurt nothing - just looks bad. Let it settle out and don't pour the dregs on your pancakes.

A syrup hydrometer is only $15 or so, and removes any doubt if it's done boiling. Be warned - you only drop these once per unit, so get a spare.

WE haven't had a run since Wed. of last week. Dumped buckets yesterday, but if we don't get one by the weekend, I think the season's over in New York.

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naz

04-05-2005 03:40:19




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to Ibby, 04-05-2005 02:43:25  
I finished 1/2 gallon last night and filter hot through felt cloth I picked up after some info. here and they worked very good alot filtered out.Pulled the taps yesterday ,getting mostly flies in the bucket.Maybe that was the good stuff buickanddeere spoke of LOL.Thank you all again for fast reliable help.
Naz



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

04-04-2005 16:53:28




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
I've boiled just enough to learn the tricks passed on to my parents from their parents who used open pans over a fire.

When finishing the syrup my mother dumps in a half-cup of milk when the batch is almost finished. The milk protein curdles and grabs a lot of the sediment and sand in the syrup. This makes it easier to filter the product through a folded dishtowel.

Be sure to bottle the syrup at above 180 F. My first syrup run was dangerously thin in my mother's opinion. Everyone who tasted it, however, adored the stuff. The remainder didn't spoil, either. In a few tries since I've never been able to duplicate the flavour of that first batch fueled by beginner's luck.

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naz/thanks

04-04-2005 13:05:07




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
everyone for the advice and links,very good site.I'm making enough for myself and familly(2-3 gallons)Have been making small batches for years without a good means of boiling.Built an evaporator this year and works great but boiling more than I used to and getting more solids(about 1 gallon syrup in 8-10 hours boiling) .Have also been storing finished syrup in the freezer in canning jars to make sure it won't spoil,kept good for a year.I will get some proper gear for next season.Thanks again,
Naz

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Jonboy

04-04-2005 07:49:33




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
For what little you have, I guess I'd try to filter it through cheesecloth or possibly flannel. If you are going to make much more than that you might want to invest in some proper equipment, but it's not cheap (anything to do with maple sugaring is pricy, but atleast you only have to buy it once unless you somehow ruin it or it gets stolen). Best way to go is with a cone filter tank and those are made out of stainless steel these days, you use felt cone shaped strainers in those. If you find an older filter tank those are galvinized steel and have lead soldier. I'm afraid that you don't have your syrup thick enough, you really need to have a hydrometer. If it isn't thick enough it won't keep and will start to spoil right off. I am posting a link to a producers manual, there is some very useful info in there, and there is quite a bit of reading, just keep scrolling down ther page and it read it all. If you package it too thin it isn't boiled enough to be stabilized, and this means trouble, as your syrup will work and build pressure due to the gasses made from the spoiling syrup and containers have been known to explode for this reason. If you make sure and get the correct density and fill your containers at the reccomended 180*F and fill these so thats theres no space left in the contailer and tip them on their side afterwards for a better seal and also the syrup is heated to 180*F to kill any backteria that might possibly have been in the container or in the tiny air pocket thats going to be the cap no matter what you do, but the less air in there the better.
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any more questions,

Also check out:
www.leaderevaporator.com

www.waterloosmallusa.com

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lucasss

04-04-2005 06:32:45




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  

i like to filter maple syrup thru my body, preferably on pancakes...



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d.stoff

04-04-2005 05:30:40




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
We made 33 gal. this year what you need is a maple syrp thermomiter calibrate it by putting water on to boil then adjust it they are exspensive about 30 to 40 dollars . To filter it get a cloth filter attach it to a container and pour it through hot you'll need insulated rubber gloves to sqeeze the last of the syrup through then turn inside out and wash with water.



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Farmered

04-04-2005 05:06:32




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
Get yourself a felt syrup filter from Grimm Co., Rutland Vt. In an emergency you can use several layers of flannel material from the fabric store.
Filter it hot, right off the fire. Sure miss the smell of that liquid gold cooking! Former NYorker in Colorado. The crud you filter out is a calcium deposit like the stuff in hard water and is more plentiful in syrup from trees growing on limestone based soil. Ed

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buickanddeere

04-04-2005 05:26:48




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to Farmered, 04-04-2005 05:06:32  
Around here we have very fine sand settle out in the jars if we don't filter. The raw sap we filter through a milk filter before pouring into the pan. Works well, but may remove some of the bugs and dirt that give flavour to the syrup.



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naz

04-04-2005 05:23:48




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to Farmered, 04-04-2005 05:06:32  
Thanks Ed,I read something of felt filters just wasn't sure what works best,I will try the flannel for now.Yep makes a nice smell,lots of tasting.



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G.King

04-04-2005 04:42:59




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
I am on the East coast, G. King



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naz

04-04-2005 04:49:49




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to G.King , 04-04-2005 04:42:59  
Did you make it back from your trip Geo.Was thinking of sending a bottle to you,sounds like with the set up you visited you may have lots. Naz



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toolman

04-04-2005 03:56:16




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to naz, 04-04-2005 03:31:59  
well geeze naz ole buddy , maybe you should just mail that on out here to me and let me check it out for you, as you know i will probably not return it lol. how you doing buddy?



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naz

04-04-2005 04:13:50




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 Re: maple syrup filter in reply to toolman, 04-04-2005 03:56:16  
Hi toolman,doing good,how about yourself? ,finishing up last bit of sap today.I'm afraid you will have to come the east coast for this stuff!!!



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