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Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ?

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Ibby

03-30-2005 02:59:39




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I'm using a 30"x60" flat pan and need to go a lot bigger for my 220 taps (Probably will tap 350 next year)

I know what the books and catalogs suggest, but I'm interested in real world experiences of evaporator size and number of taps, versus boiling times. I'm working my way up to 500 taps, and would like to boil off in about 5 hours or so.

We've made 16 gallons of VERY light syrup so far this year, but have spent a LOT of time boiling. For sure - I'll have a flue pan next year, but what size?????

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buickanddeere

04-01-2005 20:59:47




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 02:59:39  
While reverse osmosis saves a lot time,work and fuel.I don't care for the taste of the syrup. The finshed syrup due to less boiling time. Has less of the carmel flavour. The reverse osmosis just tastes sweet with some maple flavour.



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Ibby

03-31-2005 03:08:07




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 02:59:39  
Thanks for all the great advice! I was thinking a 3x10 with forced draft to start with, adding Steam-away and other devices as money permits. Reverse Osmosis is the way to go, but - OH-that price is a killer. This hobby has to pay for itself!



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cal Innes

03-31-2005 14:05:42




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-31-2005 03:08:07  
I believe i saw elsewhere that you are presently running a homemade evaporator, correct? Unless it is of thin sheetmetal you are working hard just to keep the pans heated. As I had said last night, the friend who works with me is running a 3x10 and doing 2500 taps....no R.O., no steam away (presently), no forced draft. Be sure the stack is at least 11 inches....bigger is better and make sure it is tall enough. Do you have plans to add more taps? Consider that when purchasing an evaporator. Cal

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cal innes

03-31-2005 18:25:42




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to cal Innes, 03-31-2005 14:05:42  
I just happened to recall that there is a sugarmaker in Alstead, N.H. who is doing 2500 taps on a 2x6 Grimm. How or why, I don't know. I would suspect that he must have every bell and whistle and must be pretty busy! Cal



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bruce shugarts

03-30-2005 19:26:11




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 02:59:39  
dont buy a bigger arch, reverse osmosis is the way to go. just think about taking 2/3 of the water out of your sap before you boil. we have done 2500 galons of sap to syrup in 4 hours our evaporator is waterloo small 4x16 fired with oil at the rate of 2,500000 btu per hour.



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cal innes

03-30-2005 19:10:35




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 02:59:39  
I would agree with Harold....the biggest factor is your wood quality. Both the fellow I work with and I make syrup. I put out 200 taps and he puts out two thousand. While we each have all the hardwood we could ever want, we both burn white pine slabs. the local sawmills can't give the stuff away so we get it delivered for free (that is not why I use it). I cut it up during the summer and put in a shed where it stays dry and come sugaring season it burns like mad. I use hardwood occasionally, but much prefer the dry pine. I am running a 2x6 grimm lightning and don't find it too bad for 200 taps, but would not do more than 300 I think. with 500 taps and good wood a 3x8 should be fine for you. I have found that if you get a bigger arch you will end up putting out more taps to the point that the arch is no longer big enough so you get a bigger arch....now you can put out more taps...it doesn't end. A fellow up north of me calls sugaring a "hobby gone bad" ....perhaps he is right. Cal

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Harold Hubbard

03-30-2005 04:19:58




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 02:59:39  
In my personal experience bigger is better. I am using a 5' x 16' that we used to boil 2500 taps on, now down to 1000 taps, and with a long sustained run, I am still in the sugarhouse way too long. Might also have something to do with the fact I'm not 19 years old any more. Seriously, I would not consider anything less than 3'x8', and I think that's a little small. If you are looking for a used rig, you might get a better deal on a 3'x10', 4'x12',or even a 4'x14'. These are a little bigger than most backyard guys want to deal with, and are being sold by guys that are either upgrading or going larger. My next door neighbor, who is 78 years old is still using a 4'x13', even though he has cut down from 1000 to 350 taps. He is generally done boiling in about 3 hours. Another friend of mine spent a lot of money on a 40"x10' with all the bells and whistles, he's tapping a little over 400, and still boils it in about 3-4 hours. You can get away with a smaller rig if it's oil fired, more consistant and steady burn makes it boil faster. With a wood burner, if you go with a newer rig with all the bells and whistles, preheater, steam-away, insulated, airtight firebox, and forced draft, you can use a much smaller setup. However, in that case be prepared to spend real money.

Quality of wood makes a BIG difference in boiling time, and syrup production per cord. With good split hardwood, I can expect around 5 gallons per hour, and 25 gallons per cord of wood. With the absolute junk I am burning this year it is more like 3-1/2 gallons per hour, and 15 gallons per cord.

My email is open if you want to ask me more.

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Ryan - WI

03-30-2005 04:05:52




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 Re: Maple Sugar Makers - What size evaporator ? in reply to Ibby, 03-30-2005 02:59:39  
Have you considered going to multiple pans? That is what I did. We have a 30x40x7 and a 24x48x9 sitting side by side.



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