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Trailer deck thickness?

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P Backus

03-29-2005 20:28:53




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I have a 7x18 skid steer trailer. The wood deck on it is junk, so I want to replace it with diamond plate steel. Is 1/4 inch overkill? What thickness of steel do you think would be good? It has two frame rails running the length of the trailer with cross braces every couple of feet,or 18 inches. There's only about 5 and 1/2 feet between the tires so I won't be putting any big tractors on it. Thanks for your advice!
Paul

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T_Bone

03-30-2005 19:50:29




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-29-2005 20:28:53  
Hi Paul,

You will need to look at your bracing centers to see if you take off the wood deck you will have enough support bracing when the wheels travel over the new decking.

The wood decking greatly supports the span length since it was design that way. What you may want to do is re-deck with wood, seal the wood with linseed oil both sides, then apply 10ga steel over the wood deck. This assures that the load weight tires will not make bubbles in the steel deck and keeps you for having to add new deck bracing.

Each 4ft x 8ft x 1/4" plate weighs about 330lbs and 10ga weighs about 165lbs for a equal size. Wholesale flat plate is about $.85/lb, with diamond plate higher.

I have 10ga smooth decking on my trailer but I also don't have ice or snow to deal with. A wood deck just won't last in AZ as the summer heat eats the wood very fast.

T_Bone

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P Backus

03-30-2005 21:28:38




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to T_Bone, 03-30-2005 19:50:29  
It should be noted that the wood deck on the trailer now consists of some old barn doors that someone threw on it. I'm sure that no designing went into it. I'm not sure what the original deck would have been. The trailer is pretty old.
Thanks again!
Paul



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T_Bone

03-30-2005 22:52:54




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-30-2005 21:28:38  
Hi Paul,

Sometimes it's cost effective to scrap/sell what you've got and build new. Then you have a trailer that will hold up for years without repair unless it gets some damage.

I would bet the frame looks just like the deck.

Buck bought some GN trailer plans from Northern Tool for $30? that he was impressed with. I've never seen the plans.

A new 2000lb 18ft x 8ft with 4ft dovetail trailer with "I" beam frame and steel decked, 6k tandum electric brake alxes would cost about, $2800 in materials for 12k GVWR.

Used in business it would last about 20yrs if you take care of it, so about $140yr for ownership.

T_Bone

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P Backus

03-31-2005 14:40:29




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to T_Bone, 03-30-2005 22:52:54  
T_bone, I know you're right about starting over and having something when you're done- I've experienced it on many projects. By the time you're done it cost almost as much as a good one plus all the time put in. Actually, the frame is pretty good. It seems to be a commercially built, but older tandem trailer. I just have a thing about using this one since I have it and it will suit my needs. Thanks for your help!
Paul

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farmall300u

03-30-2005 12:19:09




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-29-2005 20:28:53  
You need to calulate the load in lbs/sq in in order to determine if 1/4 is ok. Look in a hand book for the elastic limits on diamond plate 1/4, take you frame cross pieces at 24 OC, and then you can calculate the static loading you can saftely put on your trailer and you should also calculate the rolling loading case too.

If youcan't do the calculations, in a prof engineer who should be able to do it in 15 minutes.

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Tracy Brown

03-30-2005 10:53:50




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-29-2005 20:28:53  
Yes, 1/4" is overkill. I floored my 6x16 trailer with 10 ga. (1/8") years ago and have not touched it since. It's the best money I ever spent. As for slipping and sliding, I have never had a problen with anything I've hauled (and that's a lot...).



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BFO

03-30-2005 04:49:45




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-29-2005 20:28:53  
Steel would be a waste of money, get some 1 1/2" white oak, planed on one side. Put the planed side down to make a good tight contact with the frame and cross members, leave the rough cut side up for traction. If your cross members are channel, make up some 2"x2" x1/4" (with 1/2" holes) plates and clamp the wood to the top leg of the channel with 3/8" carriage bolts, if not use 5/16" deck screws. 2 screws per plank at every cross member and at each end. Soak the wood in creosote. HTH

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Midwest redneck

03-30-2005 03:46:01




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-29-2005 20:28:53  
I agree with puleo, it will be too slick with steel plate, go with something else like
treated 2X lumber or something.



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old

03-29-2005 20:36:38




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to P Backus, 03-29-2005 20:28:53  
1/4 would work but 3/16 would be good enough



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J Puleo

03-29-2005 21:03:24




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to old, 03-29-2005 20:36:38  
dont do it, it will become an ice rink as oil, dirt and water get on it



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P Backus

03-30-2005 17:30:56




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 Re: Trailer deck thickness? in reply to J Puleo, 03-29-2005 21:03:24  
Thanks to all! With steel prices up, I'll have to consider my options. I know that diamond plate can be slickery, but it sure does make a nice deck. I'll have to get some measurements and figure it out..... . I'll check our local sawmill, too.
Paul



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