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Need GOOD drill bit for broken stud

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mark

01-01-2001 07:53:41




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ok ,I broke a stud off in the head of my H Farmall...not like it is the first broken stud I have tried to remove before ..actually 3 stud's broke off...I welded nuts on the two that was just above the surface ,,they came out ..the one below the surface has to be drilled out ..I bought CARBON tip drill's and they won't even scratch it ..where can I get a drill bit to penetrate it so I can run a easy out in it ???

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Fred OH

01-02-2001 11:48:42




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 Re: need GOOD drill bit for broken stud in reply to mark, 01-01-2001 07:53:41  
Mark, if you tried welding a nut on this stud and twisted it off, you probably made it hard. If not, you need a carbide spade drill. They are zero rake angle (drill doesn't need pulled into work to chip cutting edge) These drills run at a high speed and actually heat up the hardened metal and wipe a small annealed shaving as they go. Kinda slow but sometimes if it's the only game in town, you got to play it. L8R----Fred OH

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rhudson

01-01-2001 20:27:59




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 Re: need GOOD drill bit for broken stud in reply to mark, 01-01-2001 07:53:41  
Mark, if you're using a mason's carbide tipped drill, it has the wrong rake angle to drill metal. They can be reground with a diamond wheel or cheaper green wheels for positive rake angle, and do a fair job on hard metal. as always the harder the metal the slower the drill speed. left hand drill work (very well i might say) because they tend to unscrew right hand threaded fastners as they drill. i suspect the vibration associated with drill helps break the bond between the fastner and the female threads. many times the stud backs out during the drilling operation or when the drill breaks through and grabs. if not, a hole is a hole and you can still use an easy out or other last resort. i cant figure out why a head bolt is so hard, unless it has gained carbon from some source and become cased hardened.

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Nathan(GA)

01-01-2001 19:55:19




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 Re: need GOOD drill bit for broken stud in reply to mark, 01-01-2001 07:53:41  
Any good quality drill bit with proper cutting edge will do the job. Start with about 1/8".

The only carbide tip drills I know of are for masonry, tile, etc.



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Larry Garbarek

01-01-2001 12:48:08




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 Re: need GOOD drill bit for broken stud in reply to mark, 01-01-2001 07:53:41  
Don't understand. What is a carbon tipped drill?

I believe you mean a carbide tipped drill. If so, carbide is about the best readily available material you can use to drill steel. If carbide tipped drills are not working, the problem might be the type of point.

For many applications, a split point drill is self centering, thus, it will keep the point from "walking" over your workpiece and help you to get an hole started.

Most cobalt drills have split points.

You might use a smaller split point drill to get a starter hole. Then a left hand drill might be able to penetrate and break loose your studs.

If the left hand drill still doesn;t do the job, try the 4 flute stud removers/drill extractors by Armstrong, Williams and others. You tap these tapered fluted extractors into the drilled hole and turn with a wrench. Use rust penetrating products if necessary. This should solve most problems. If this doesn't work, I guess you will have to use a torch to heat and extract.

Good luck!

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CJ

01-01-2001 08:50:01




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 Re: need GOOD drill bit for broken stud in reply to mark, 01-01-2001 07:53:41  
Get a LEFT Handed titaniun coated or colbalt bit.You will not regret the price. If the broken stud is not rusted in drilling it with a CCW rotating bit will probably spin the stud out before you drill all the way through.



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