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Joe

11-10-1998 10:50:47




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I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
the seam.

I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
on any container which has held gasoline" because
of dangerous vapors.

I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
smell for sometime to come.

Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

Any advice appreciated!

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john

11-13-1998 16:13:08




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  
: I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: the seam.

: I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: on any container which has held gasoline" because
: of dangerous vapors.

: I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: smell for sometime to come.

: Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: Any advice appreciated!

Stick a match in it. That small can't have that much fumes and they'll only burn once!

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Leonard

11-12-1998 04:00:09




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  
: I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: the seam.

: I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: on any container which has held gasoline" because
: of dangerous vapors.

: I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: smell for sometime to come.

: Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: Any advice appreciated!

I've used a product called JB Weld to repair the bottom of a gas tank; it should work on a seam as well. It's a two part epoxy and is very easy to use.

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big fred

11-11-1998 14:42:41




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  
: I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: the seam.

: I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: on any container which has held gasoline" because
: of dangerous vapors.

: I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: smell for sometime to come.

: Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: Any advice appreciated!

I had a leak in the gas tank of an old Volvo wagon, which I fixed with an epoxy gas tank mender that I got at a parts store. I didn't even drain the tank, just pressed the mender into the leaking seam and smeared it around until the leak stopped. It held for another 6 years and over 120,000 miles. Didn't look pretty, though.

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DCDale

11-10-1998 20:42:36




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  

: I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: the seam.

: I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: on any container which has held gasoline" because
: of dangerous vapors.

: I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: smell for sometime to come.

: Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: Any advice appreciated!

I've soldered tanks numerous times, and Martin is right. I make it simpler, just wash out the tank with dish soap and hot water, blow interior dry with airhose, and start soldering!!! And start with brite clean metal, and use a soldering paste like NOKORODE etc. Low flame from oxy -acet. or propane is best.

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Joe

11-10-1998 20:41:56




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  
Info grabbed from another site: Shops which weld automobile gasoline tanks for example, usually steam clean the insides for more than an hour to ensure that no residual gasoline or oil are emitted from pores in the metal during heating. Even this is dangerous since there is no way to ensure that all of the volatile material has been driven from the pores. Additional precautions are taken by others such as blowing the exhaust from a vehicle into the tank being welded. This has the associated dangers of carbon monoxide asphyxiation and ignition and explosion of gasoline or other volatile organics which are contained in the exhaust. According to Part 57.4604, before welding, cutting, or applying heat with an open flame to pipelines or containers that have contained flammable or
combustible liquids, flammable gases, or explosive solids, the pipelines or containers must be (a) Drained, ventilated, and thoroughly cleaned of any residue; (b) Vented to prevent pressure build-up during the application of heat; and (c)(1) Filled with an inert gas or water, where compatible (venting and other precautions are necessary such as, for example, complete purging of the air and maintaining a steady stream of nitrogen flowing freely into and out of the container with the flow rate large enough and outlet hose long enough and of small enough diameter to eliminate return of air through it); or (2) Determined to be free of flammable gases by a flammable gas detection device prior to and at frequent intervals during the application of heat.

Bottom line: safest bet for me is to give up on any ideas
about heating a container which previously held fuel.

Thanks much for all advice given.

Joe

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sign man

11-10-1998 20:32:55




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  
: I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: the seam.

: I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: on any container which has held gasoline" because
: of dangerous vapors.

: I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: smell for sometime to come.

: Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: Any advice appreciated!

:Advice is FREE. Plastic surgeons aren't. We've used a 2 part epoxy called Magic Metal to
repair gas and diesel tanks. Clean, (I prefer a good areosol parts cleaner)
then mix and apply. In twenty minutes you can be filling
your tank with fuel instead of that surgeons pocketbook.

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yep

11-10-1998 12:30:10




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 Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to Joe, 11-10-1998 10:50:47  

: I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: the seam.

: I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: on any container which has held gasoline" because
: of dangerous vapors.

: I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: smell for sometime to come.

: Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: Any advice appreciated!

Get a hold of an old soldering iron heat that to melt the solder. or buy some of the tank sealer they sell or just get another tank or make an appointment with your undertaker

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martin fleming

11-10-1998 19:23:16




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 Re: Re: Repairing a gasoline tank in reply to yep, 11-10-1998 12:30:10  

: : : I have a leaking gasoline tank on a small : : Briggs and Stratton engine. The tank is metal and
: : is about 4" square by 12" long. The leak is along
: : the seam.

: : I want to try and repair it by heating the tank with
: : an acetylne torch and laying a bead of solder along : : the seam. My torch instructions warn "never use
: : on any container which has held gasoline" because
: : of dangerous vapors.

: : I emptied the tank about a week ago, the cap is off
: : the top, the valve is out of the bottom, but it : : smells like a fuel container and I expect it well
: : smell for sometime to come.

: : Do I have anything to worry about heating this thing up?

: : Any advice appreciated!

: Get a hold of an old soldering iron heat that to melt the solder. or buy some of the tank sealer they sell or just get another tank or make an appointment with your undertaker

It's possible to repair a tank with a torch. The trick is that you first drain it, rinse it out a few times, and then fill it with exhaust gas from your car's muffler. You wouldn't need a acetylene torch, though, a propane torch would work just fine. The trick is to get your surfaces very very clean before you solder.

I just repaired leaks in both a diesel tank as well as a gasoline tank and I'm here writing this!

~martin

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