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Bryan In Iowa

03-24-2005 14:08:26




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Looking to run power to barn . It's 150 ft from pole . Want to bury line. Only plan on running lights or battery charger. Don't really need 220 for this barn . What size wire should i use ? What type of box in barn ? Maybe 6 100 watt bulbs , flood light , thats about it . Thanks Bryan




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MarkB_MI

03-24-2005 18:18:39




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 Re: Another wiring question in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 03-24-2005 14:08:26  
You may not think you need 220, but you will.

If you're going to go the trouble of burying cable, why not go ahead and run 100 amp service out to the barn? The incremental cost is not that much over running a 20 amp branch circuit, and you should never have to worry about not having enough power.



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jhill

03-25-2005 06:44:14




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 Re: Another wiring question in reply to MarkB_MI, 03-24-2005 18:18:39  
I totally agree with Mark. Run 220 and 100 amp circuit someday you will be very glad you did.



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BobinOH

03-24-2005 17:53:06




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 Re: Another wiring question in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 03-24-2005 14:08:26  
Minimum size copper wire required to allow not more than 2% voltage drop at 160 feet are: 10 amps will require #6 wire, 20 amps will require #5 wire, 30 amps will require #3 wire. These sizes are required for you to end up with the same amperage at your barn that is feeding it 160 ft away.



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dr.sportster

03-24-2005 14:31:54




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 Re: Another wiring question in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 03-24-2005 14:08:26  
Run two inch PVC out there and you can have plenty of future upgradability.Pipe is cheap labor and copper wire is the money.Aluminum wire is not good buried.Only an opinion.



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dr.sportster

03-24-2005 15:14:16




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 Re: Another wiring question in reply to dr.sportster, 03-24-2005 14:31:54  
Please add your own commas so my second setence makes sense.[Pipe is cheap, ] not pipe is cheap labor.Unless someone invented pipe that installs itself,that didnt make sense.Thank you.



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buickanddeere

03-24-2005 14:25:42




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 Re: Another wiring question in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 03-24-2005 14:08:26  
There will be less volatge drop on the same sized wires. Or able to use smaller wires with the same VD if 240 is ran with a neutral. A 30amp disconnect with a 30 or 60 amp six breaker panel may work fine. The feed would have to be at least #8 copper. By the time you have some lights, a 4500W milkhouse heater, a couple of block heaters, 400W yard light, portable tools etc. A 60 amp panel would be minimum. Seems everytme someone buys a tractor, truck, builds a shed, buys an air compressor, buys a generator etc. They always wish they had went one size bigger afterwards. Pole? You mean pole where the service transformer is in the middle of the yard? Or 150 feet from the house service panel? Grounding will vary with local code and who you ask.

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