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Easy

03-24-2005 03:20:21




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I bought a #9,000 lb. winch recently. I want to make up a mounting plate to use it on my trailer hitch. I have access to 2 in heavy wall tube and 2 in bar stock. I am thinking of making the tounge out of tube. But I see a lot of tounges made out of solid stock? Is the tube a bad idea? Will it stand up to the stress? Thanx for your help. Easy.




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T_Bone

03-25-2005 07:46:33




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
Hi Easy,

Very easy to exceed a factory receiver design limits as they barley are built to that design rating. Chevy is a having a terrible problem with underdesigned receivers failing.

A guy over on the RV forum posted a picture of a 3" x 1/4" nylon towing strap that had broke and went thru the windshield of his CJ5 where the driver would have been setting. It poked a 8" round hole even thru the safety glass.

Metal is no different than the nylon strap as it will also stretch before it breaks. So if you stretch it a little this time and a little more next time, then it may well break when your pulling your trailer.

I use a custom made receiver and hitching and my ware point is now my 3/4" receiver pin. Under a pre-trip inspection I have seen a slight off set in that 3/4" pin diameter. I don't think you can get any closer than that on shearing a 3/4" pin.

T_Bone

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jackbrit3

03-24-2005 18:58:09




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
hitch rating, and how much weight is actually on the hitch are two different things. I can easily move my 400 pound trailor on flat ground with one hand. It does not take the full 400 pounds to move it. I think if you try to pull 9000 pounds static load, on a hitch rated to tow 9000 pounds something might break.



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Leland

03-24-2005 18:35:26




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
Just find a piece of 1/2 plate and weld it to hitch or trailer tounge and put in proper gussets and then use grade 8 bolts to mount winch, this will be the safest in the long run. I have saw a winch go flying from a poor mount and it is not a pretty site wondering if it's coming after you or not.



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Davis In SC

03-24-2005 14:53:59




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
Scares me to use a hitch reciever to hold a winch. I have seen these in use , but I hide behind a big tree as far away as I can get. Hitch rating is only for total trailer weight, not the pounds of dead pull it can stand. A hard pull will have the cable stretched very tight. If the pin shears, you are dealing with a deadly projectile.



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Easy

03-24-2005 18:08:28




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Davis In SC, 03-24-2005 14:53:59  
Yeah, I guess I have to think a little, 1st research how much it would take to shear a 5/8 pin. I think if the force exceeded the weight of the vehicle, the truck would be dragged backwards, kind of a built in safety. Have to do more tinking, the weight of the winch is pretty high, adding 10 lbs to the weight won't be real bad.... Easy



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Greg Ne Or

03-24-2005 11:21:37




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
A 9,000 lb. winch couldn't be lite to handle.

If a single block is used to double the line pull of the winch & the deadman or anchor point isn't in a straight line pull. I believe the 'side loads' on the tubing could kink it.

I've made these type of mounts in the past using a piece of reciever tube on the mounting bracket for the winch, with a short piece of 2" solid bar w/ a couple of 5/8" holes to pin it together.

With a tight fit-up the bending moments are in the solid bar & the reciever tube and the mounting bolts & pin will probalay [sp] shear first.

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Boog

03-24-2005 09:52:32




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
What is the normal trailer ball hitch (male end) you use made out of???? Use the same thing as that.



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raytasch

03-24-2005 04:08:22




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to Easy, 03-24-2005 03:20:21  
The answer lies in how thick is your "thick wall"
and what is the quality of it. One of my hitch receivers is rated at 10Klbs and it is "thick wall" tubing. ray



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Easy

03-24-2005 08:07:52




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 Re: Trailer Hitch winch in reply to raytasch, 03-24-2005 04:08:22  
I believe it is 1/4 inch wall. Seems pretty stout. The hith it is used on is 10K too. Easy.



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