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OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder

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OK-AL

03-13-2005 09:09:10




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I've got a friend with a '60's model Lincoln Tig 300/300 arc welder for sale. It doesn't have any cables, no tig torch or stick clamps. It used a water cooled tig torch.

My question is: Is it worth $500? It hasn't been used in over ten years. Don't know if any of it works. I'm not interested in the tig part, just use it for arc welding. This would just be used in my home shop.

I'm debating buying it or a new, 200 amp AC/DC stick machine for about the same money.

Opinons?

OK-AL

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Big Jim

03-16-2005 22:03:14




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to OK-AL, 03-13-2005 09:09:10  
I bought an old Miller 330 A/BP 300 amp machine a year ago for $300, bare, no cables or anything. With some patience on eBay I added cables, TIG torch, water cooler, remote box and some misc for about $300 more. I love that machine. While it doesn't have some of the fancy features of the newer inverter TIGs, it is rock-solid stable and the nicest DC stick welder I've ever used. Plus, since it weighs over 800 pounds, it is not likely to disappear out of my garage.

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T_Bone

03-14-2005 00:06:34




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to OK-AL, 03-13-2005 09:09:10  
Hi Al,

$500 for a working machine is a good buy but $500 for scrap machine is high.

If you can't test the machine before you buy, pay scrap prices as that's probably what you will have.

If your a typical home shop and burn less than 50lbs/yr, why not buy a new Lincoln or Miller for under $500 as that way you know what your buying. $500 would include 100ft of new welding cable if you shop well.

Once you use Tig, even scratch start Tig, it's hard to go back to stick. Tig is the finest of manual welding processes, but slow.

T_Bone

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Rod M1

03-13-2005 14:27:40




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to OK-AL, 03-13-2005 09:09:10  
If you don't have 3 phase its not even worth 2 cents to you.



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dr.sportster

03-14-2005 10:15:44




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to Rod M1, 03-13-2005 14:27:40  
Agree with Rod.Phase converters while maybe ok for a Brideport mill or old lathe will not work well for a welder you will need a three phase service.Unless ten guys tell me modern phase converters have improved greatly.The ones I used were homemade from and old 3 phase motors and did not supply clean enough power for a welder.That 3rd generated phase probably looks like a big spike on a scope not like a sine wave should look.Phase converters were not even considered in the electrical code book until the early ninties.

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JL Sargent

03-13-2005 13:02:23




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to OK-AL, 03-13-2005 09:09:10  
You understand of course thats a 3 phase machine. The water cooling is nice for alot of HF welding but Ive found that an Air cooled torch (which will work with that machine) will do about 80% of my needs. Especially if you like plenty of breaks during your work. You can also stick weld with that one. $500.00 would be a great price if it all works and you can use it. I have the little brother to it, the Tig 250. I have really enjoyed it over the years and no problems. I really enjoy welding stainless steels with this type of welder. If Im welding two unknown steels Ill try TIG and 309 in 1/16 for a test and most of the time it will stick.

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OK-AL

03-13-2005 14:01:17




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to JL Sargent, 03-13-2005 13:02:23  
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that the air cooled tig torch would work. Good to know.

According to the owner (and from what I can gleam from Linocln's website) this unit is a single-phase input. I'll check that closely.

OK-AL



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JL Sargent

03-13-2005 14:45:08




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to OK-AL, 03-13-2005 14:01:17  
Hey, some are single phase I see. Hopefully that one is. If it does not say single phase at the elec. plate you might get the serial# off machine and call Lincoln.



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dr.sportster

03-13-2005 10:39:52




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 Re: OLD Lincoln Tig-300/300 Arc Welder in reply to OK-AL, 03-13-2005 09:09:10  
The TIG is the best thing there.A water cooled TIG is a beautiful thing.It is similar to gas welding and produces the best results of any method.Seems like an ok deal but please try the TIG part of it you will love TIG.If hes a freind maybe he can sorta give a money back trial.Cable and Tungstens are expensive You would hate to put money into a dud.Be nice to try it first if he could borrow leads from another machine.Not familiar with that unit myself.

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